Trade & FA 2023-24: Booker Likes NYK? Vogel Out? Suns Imploding?

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Report: Lakers could target Kyrie Irving, Donovan Mitchell and Trae Young this summer

https://lakersdaily.com/report-lakers-co...is-summer/

[StrandedOnBeauboisHill]

Report: Lakers could target Kyrie Irving, Donovan Mitchell and Trae Young this summer

https://lakersdaily.com/report-lakers-co...is-summer/

lol

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NBACentral
@TheDunkCentral
The Dallas Mavericks are the favorites to land Marcus Morris, per
@BovadaOfficial


Dallas Mavericks: +260
New York Knicks: +600
Los Angeles Lakers: +600
Oklahoma City Thunder: +700
Minnesota Timberwolves: +700
New Orleans Pelicans: +700
Sacramento Kings: +700
Atlanta Hawks: +750
Cleveland Cavaliers: +800
Orlando Magic: +800

[HoosierDaddyKidd]

This is astute. Great stuff.

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Can you hit the highlights without copy/pasting?

I want to read what they said about the whole league, not just the Mavs.

[chaparral]

NBACentral
@TheDunkCentral
The Dallas Mavericks are the favorites to land Marcus Morris, per
@BovadaOfficial

Mavs going for the slapstick goon brothers. 

Please No...

[Scott41theMavs]

I think it was either the 27FRP or Green.  I'd rather Green than the 27FRP.

Absolutely not me. That would have 100% punted this year. The Mavs need at least the semblance of a POA defender among the littles in the starting lineup, and while I actually prefer Exum to Green, obviously Exum isn't 100% healthy. Getting a position of need starter by trading one of your other indispensable starters and thus creating a new need is the dictionary definition of a lateral move.

Yes, we overpaid for PJ. But I will never be one of those Vintage Peja types who just want to tank every year when we have a generational talent.

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Mavs going for the slapstick goon brothers. 

Please No...

Not "the Mavs going for" them, but people betting speculatively that they'll be reunited. Marcus is not a need, so hopefully we're good.

[dirkfansince1998]

Yes, we overpaid for PJ. But I will never be one of those Vintage Peja types who just want to tank every year when we have a generational talent.

It's a shame that we don't have a team tank thread anymore. Vintage Peja used to open a thread after the first loss of the season.

[ItsGoTime]

Report: Lakers could target Kyrie Irving, Donovan Mitchell and Trae Young this summer

https://lakersdaily.com/report-lakers-co...is-summer/

I like the use of the word AND in there, it further illustrates Laker delusion.

[DallasMaverick]

Report: Lakers could target Kyrie Irving, Donovan Mitchell and Trae Young this summer

https://lakersdaily.com/report-lakers-co...is-summer/

Yes, and the Mavs are targeting Wemby, Jokic, and Giannis. Their availability isn’t certain yet.

[StrandedOnBeauboisHill]

https://archive.is/F9gyy


Tim Cato's latest article in the athletic.  First time I've been on board with his thoughts in a while honestly.  Speaks to what I've mentioned in a couple posts that despite losing draft equity, we now have a lot of players who have trade value in their own right.

[ItsGoTime]

Yes, and the Mavs are targeting Wemby, Jokic, and Giannis. Their availability isn’t certain yet.

We win this reporting round LAKERS!

Probably should be worded, the Mavs are keeping an eye on the Jokic, Giannis and Wemby situations. That makes it sound more official!

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https://archive.is/F9gyy


Tim Cato's latest article in the athletic.  First time I've been on board with his thoughts in a while honestly.  Speaks to what I've mentioned in a couple posts that despite losing draft equity, we now have a lot of players who have trade value in their own right.

Yep, so much easier to make a trade when teams are calling US for a deal. That’ll be a change for Nico.

[F Gump]

As FGump explained, they can't pay him more. Bought out player gets the value of his contract (unless he negotiates for less in the buyout). THe original team pays the difference between the buyout agreement and his new salary.

Just to keep the facts clear, what I said is that teams DON'T bid on players who are waived like these. I did not say they CAN'T. 

The reasons are (1)  they have already gotten a full season salary, (2) anything beyond minimum is typically contractually subject to set off, and (3) with a player so out of favor that he's been waived, a bidding war feels like overpay. Very very few of these are an actual buyout that reduces the money owed, even though many get labeled as a buyout in the media.

You also have the issue of NBA subsidy with its lesser cap hit -- that does not apply to a larger deal than ROS minimum only.

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Nick Angstadt
@NickVanExit
In 1 calendar year, Nico Harrison turned the Mavs Rotation upside down.

*Dinwiddie, Finney-Smith, Bullock, Wood, JaVale, Bertans, Theo

INTO

Kyrie, Lively, Washington, Gafford, Jones Jr, Exum, O-Max

[BigDirk41]

Nick Angstadt
@NickVanExit
In 1 calendar year, Nico Harrison turned the Mavs Rotation upside down.

*Dinwiddie, Finney-Smith, Bullock, Wood, JaVale, Bertans, Theo

INTO

Kyrie, Lively, Washington, Gafford, Jones Jr, Exum, O-Max

I can't be mad at that. Pretty impressive

[MarkAguirreWrathofGod]

Not trying to be contrarian but I would try to sign Dinwiddie AND Marcus Morris. Morris will probably wind up being a more impactful playoff presence than DJJ. 40% from 3 and has mid-range game which has value in the playoffs and he is a physical defender for the 5-15 minutes he would play. He has played in many high stakes playoff games. Either way I think DJJ feels the squeeze of the PJ/Gafford deals most. I also think we should probably forgo trying to re-sign DJJ this summer. ALL of those minutes (10-20 minutes per game) should go to Omax. Assuming we don’t trade for another wing this summer.

[BigDirk41]

Not trying to be contrarian but I would try to sign Dinwiddie AND Marcus Morris. Morris will probably wind up being a more impactful playoff presence than DJJ. 40% from 3 and has mid-range game which has value in the playoffs and he is a physical defender for the 5-15 minutes he would play. He has played in many high stakes playoff games. Either way I think DJJ feels the squeeze of the PJ/Gafford deals most. I also think we should probably forgo trying to re-sign DJJ this summer. ALL of those minutes (10-20 minutes per game) should go to Omax. Assuming we don’t trade for another wing this summer.

Yeah I don't see a big role for DJJ going forward. He'll probably be used situationally for certain matchup. I agree they shouldn't try to resign him unless it's cheap.

[Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo]

Not trying to be contrarian but I would try to sign Dinwiddie AND Marcus Morris. 

Isn't there just one roster spot remaining?

[BigDirk41]

Isn't there just one roster spot remaining?

Yeah so not sure they would be willing to cut anyone.

[MarkAguirreWrathofGod]

Isn't there just one roster spot remaining?

My bad, I think I miscounted. Thought we had two spots remaining.

[Scott41theMavs]

My bad, I think I miscounted. Thought we had two spots remaining.

I thought you were saying, just cut DJJ. 

That seemed a little extreme to me. Glad I misunderstood.