Trade & FA 2023-24: Stein-Ingram Trade Inevitable| LAL Want Lebron Back On Any Terms

[surfpuckmd]

Josh Green is a better asset than PJ Washington.  He is a much better 3-point shooter and they around the same level defensively.  Importantly, Josh is 2 years younger and has greater potential to improve.  He's also on a better contract.  I hope we don't trade Josh Green for PJ Washington.

If the Hornets were interested in Jaden Hardy, then a Grant Williams for PJ Washington trade would make a lot of sense for us. 

Grant Williams, Jaden Hardy, a 2nd-round pick

for, PJ Washington

Hopefully the Hornets haven't watched Grant Williams play since December 1st and haven't seen how sad he has been.

[Okstate819]

Ok With Green/GWill for PJ/Richards. Then do Holmes and 2 2nds for DFS. Going from Green/GWill to DFS/ PJ at the 3/4 would dramatically help our posistional size, length, and rebounding. Richards a solid backup 5 to add as well.

Luka
Kyrie
DFS
PJ
Lively
THJ
Exum
DJJ
Richards
Kleber
Hardy
Seth
Omax
Powell

[SkenfromLMF]

Like  others, I'm not a fan of Green for PJ.  At best it is lateral and probably a step backwards.  I wonder if fans in Charlotte are saying the same exact thing or are welcoming such a swap.  Interesting how Green is the one teams want.  Brooklyn, Atlanta and now Charlotte.

I'm not such an absolutist on Green to turn down all trades involving him.  I like what you've put together above for the Mav's.  I'm an Avdija fan and really like his upside.  If you believe Green > PJ (or that Charlotte thinks so), their part of the deal is essentially Green/GWill for PJ/Richards.  That seems reasonable if they covet Green.

Then you've got 2027/Hardy for Avdija and eating some salary.  That doesn't seem crazy either (I wonder if they'd ask for OMax instead).  

It would be hard to pull off a deal with four outgoing players in a week where we play B2B on Monday and Tuesday and play again on Thursday.  Might just have to forfeit a game.  But, I think this is well done...plus it would be cool to see a deal with two Poison Pill players.  Dallas gets that TPE I've been talking about and it drags us a little bit further away from the first Apron next season (but not much when you include a minimum).

Second the nod for Smitty's proposal here, I would caveat one thing. In order to make this a little more palatable in losing both Green and Hardy, I would like to add Morris (or Curry) as salary outgoing to Washington while adding Franky Smokes coming back as insurance against Dante Exum and Kyrie not both finding their health and groove. Okay Exum insurance...

IF you could make it Curry going to Washington would that leave enough slack for Bitadze for a 2nd from Orlando and stay short of the Apron of Apocalypse?

[Jym]

I think my biggest question now is what kind of a haul we could get for Kyrie
After missing out on OG and Siakam, none of the guys being mentioned seem like game changers.

[Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo]

I think my biggest question now is what kind of a haul we could get for Kyrie
After missing out on OG and Siakam, none of the guys being mentioned seem like game changers.

He won't get traded, at least not in this TDL.

Now.. if the Mavs replace Kidd (and maybe Nico too), Kyrie might say something against the Mavs that could sour him to the fans or the FO. That's going to push them to trade him.

[SleepingHero]

Dejounte Murray:
“More than one team, apparently including the Nets, are concerned about his personality, that in the words of one source, “he is not about the right things.”

[RGP1981]

Dejounte Murray:

“More than one team, apparently including the Nets, are concerned about his personality, that in the words of one source, “he is not about the right things.”

So... the classic buy-low situation?

It could even turn into a classic AND perfect buy-low situation, i.e., if the Mavericks want to swap Kyrie for Dejounte, since Kyrie has somewhat rehabbed his image. They could end up with a better fitting, more appropriately aged, and more available to play PG... while getting additional assets back.

I'd be highly interested in a 3-team trade that sends Kyrie to LAL, Austin Reaves to the Hawks, and Dejounte (+?) to Dallas.

[Winter]

I'm totally on board with making trades to address issues, I just don't want to go into it with the mindset that we have to.  That generally results in making bad trades.

I'm pretty sure no one will disagree with that including me. For all I know, we could be in complete agreement about what constitutes overpayment. 

If there's a trade at the deadline, I'll check in with you to compare notes on cost.

[Scott41theMavs]

4 trading days left.

[Chicagojk]

Cato has some trade ideas. No reporting, just throwing things out there

1) Kuzma for Grant Williams, Richaun Holmes, Jaden Hardy and 27 first.

2)Gaffrod for HOlmes, 25 second, 28 second

3) Wiggins and 26 first for Grant Williams and Richaun Holmes

Not much here. The other trades he list are really out there.

[omahen]

Cato has some trade ideas.  No reporting, just throwing things out there

1) Kuzma for Grant Williams, Richaun Holmes, Jaden Hardy and 27 first.

2)Gaffrod for HOlmes, 25 second, 28 second

3) Wiggins and 26 first for Grant Williams and Richaun Holmes

Not much here.  The other trades he list are really out there.

These are trades suggested by fans that he commented. Some other beat writers at least took an effort to involve the other party opinion, Cato only provided his own. Should be noted that he thinks first two are sort of realistic, but he is not enthusiastic from Mavs perspective. He thinks Mavs would still need 3rd best player even after trading for Kuzma and it might be difficult to get him. He is not sure it is worth having such an expensive back-up centre as Gafford behind the future of the team (Lively). For the Wiggins part, he doesn't believe there is any chance GSW would consider it and even if they would, he would still not like it from Mavs perspective. He is not a Wiggins fan.

[ItsGoTime]

I think my biggest question now is what kind of a haul we could get for Kyrie
After missing out on OG and Siakam, none of the guys being mentioned seem like game changers.

3 team trade in the offseason where Utah gets Reaves and a salary matching player and picks from LAL, LAL gets Kyrie and we get Lauri and Sexton.

[surfpuckmd]

Mavs: PJW, Richards, Avdija
Wizards: Holmes, Hardy, ‘27FRP (DAL)
Hornets: Green, GWill

This keeps the Mavs below the tax line and gives them a big defensive wing, starting PF, and backup Big on a great contract.

Luka - Exum - Curry
Irving - THJ
Avdija - DJJ - Omax
PJW - Maxi - Morris
Lively - Richards - Powell

THJ remains on the team and is a great expiring next year, while providing scoring from the second unit.

I think this is the best realistic trade proposal I have seen.  I would definitely do this even though I really like Josh Green's potential.  I believe the Hornets would probably want more value so I think we'd have to either send our two 2nd-rounders to the Hornets or send Hardy to Charlotte and the two 2nd rounders to Washington.

We'd have an open spot to sign another guard.  I'd like Hamidou Diallo as a defensive specialist.  He can't shoot but he was one of the league's best defensive wings last season.  

I'm not a PJ Washington enthusiast but I think he's better than Grant Williams and I would be interested in seeing him play with Luka and Kyrie.

[StrandedOnBeauboisHill]

Woj reporting that the wizards are trying to keep Kuzma and that Kuzma wants to be there. Might just be trying to up the price through a mouthpiece but it’s starting to feel like more smoke around PJ Washington than Kuzma now which is a good thing.

[mvossman]

Woj reporting that the wizards are trying to keep Kuzma and that Kuzma wants to be there. Might just be trying to up the price through a mouthpiece but it’s starting to feel like more smoke around PJ Washington than Kuzma now which is a good thing.

If this is true, I hope its Grant Williams instead of Green going out.  I would probably be willing to do the trade suggested above where we include Hardy and a second.

[StrandedOnBeauboisHill]

If this is true, I hope its Grant Williams instead of Green going out.  I would probably be willing to do the trade suggested above where we include Hardy and a second.

Ya Green for PJ feels somewhat lateral to me unless it gets expanded into something larger as some here have suggested/proposed.

[Scott41theMavs]

What would satisfy you this trade deadline?

I would be satisfied if
1) we traded Kyrie for another star (not happening),
2) we acquired a starting level four without Luka, Lively, or OMax being included,
3) we got a backup center as well,
4) Green wasn't sent out unless he was being sort of replaced (cf. the Avdija ideas),
5) we held onto our '27 unless it's either Grant or the sort of Monty Hall haul suggested by Smitty,
6) no stinking Wiggins, and Kuzma only on the very cheap,
or 7) we did nothing because everything "available" was an overpay.

[Smitty]

What would satisfy you this trade deadline?

I would be satisfied if
1) we traded Kyrie for another star (not happening),
2) we acquired a starting level four without Luka, Lively, or OMax being included,
3) we got a backup center as well,
4) Green wasn't sent out unless he was being sort of replaced (cf. the Avdija ideas),
5) we held onto our '27 unless it's either Grant or the sort of Monty Hall haul suggested by Smitty,
6) no stinking Wiggins, and Kuzma only on the very cheap,
or 7) we did nothing because everything "available" was an overpay.

I’ll probably be fine with any outcome except sending a FRP + Omax/Green for Kyle Kuzma. That one would crush me.

[BigDirk41]

Woj reporting that the wizards are trying to keep Kuzma and that Kuzma wants to be there. Might just be trying to up the price through a mouthpiece but it’s starting to feel like more smoke around PJ Washington than Kuzma now which is a good thing.

I don't buy this. Kuz sat out light night. He's a goner. They just want to raise his value.

[Smitty]

Heading into Thursday’s deadline, rival executives continue to believe a first-round pick and a rotation player is suitable for Finney-Smith – who’s owed $14.9 million next season with a $15.37 million player option for the 2025-26 season – and multiple second-round picks can be had for O’Neale, who’s entering unrestricted free agency this summer.

Finney-Smith has drawn significant interest on the trade market, including several playoff-caliber teams such as the Lakers and Mavericks. With Jarred Vanderbilt potentially out for the season, per ESPN, Finney-Smith is a versatile defensive forward who can make up for his loss while spacing the floor. The Mavericks have long held interest in a reunion with Finney-Smith who is a close friend of franchise star Luka Doncic.

Other teams to circle the wagon on Finney-Smith include the Bucks, Thunder, Suns and Kings, while O’Neale has drawn interest from the Mavericks, Nuggets, Pacers, Bucks, Timberwolves, Suns and Kings, per the New York Post.

One Bulls player who could be dealt, however, is center Andre Drummond who’s drawn trade interest from the Celtics, Mavericks, Lakers and Suns, league sources told HoopsHype. The Rockets also considered making a run at Drummond before acquiring Steven Adams.

Drummond remains a dominant rebounder, averaging a career-high 18.9 rebounds per 36 minutes. In seven starts for the Bulls, Drummond has answered the call by averaging 14 points and 17.4 rebounds in 27.7 minutes