(12-15-2020, 11:05 PM)BolsDamols Wrote: Much easier to root for someone like Kyle Guy

(12-16-2020, 12:49 AM)Tyler Wrote: Right on cue.
https://twitter.com/SacramentoKings/status/1339081306957701120

(12-15-2020, 11:25 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Ignore Giannis. We need a draft pick for his younger brother Alex. The only brother that can actually shoot.

(12-15-2020, 06:20 PM)hakeemfan Wrote: I am one of those who feels this is good. As a Mavs fan who has been repeatedly burnt before, I never had high hopes of Giannis landing here. So the most likely outcome would have been Giannis going elsewhere to form a super team and Luka thinking that is the path for him too. 

Giannis is saying rings are not the be all / end all. As someone aptly wrote in this thread, ESPN can spin it however they want. KD’s rings don’t mean much to me.  However it had got to the point where greats like Barkley, Malone and Ewing were looked at as lesser greats due to not having a ring. So much so that every star these days felt the need for a ring to justify their legacy. 

Hopefully today is the start of a new trend that more than rings, the way you get it matters. That can only help the Mavs.

(12-15-2020, 07:15 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: 1-There are 2 types of basketball legacy, one is All-time ranking, which if you aren't top 5 at some point; you are most likely see yourself out of relevancy during your own retirement time. He will suffer from it. AD might end up being considered a better player when Giannis is clearly superior.
 
The other one is the one related to the city and franchise. Lebron for example will have only that type with Cavs. Miami is Wade's franchise, LA is Kobe/Magic. KD will never come close to the splash brothers own legacy among dubs fans. Shaq will never have a fanbase relate to him like Mavs fan with Dirk or Spurs and Duncan. 

2-Best Harden ever got was to conference finals. Giannis will have at least half decade of relevance, he can opt out when he is just 30. 
It isn't a sad day for NBA, the league has peaked in 2018 and ratings has been down since then, that is on every platform including illegal streaming. 
something needed to change. And Giannis decision will be a welcome change. I won't be surprised if there will be more restriction on player movements in next CBA to ensure more of this happens.

But for now, it is sad for his own All-time legacy. Giannis had the potential to be the greatest international basketball player ever, now I think there might be a chance that Jokic and Luka surpass him in being better Euro player of his generation. 
But at the end, I think it is better for him to have that fanbase that relates to him.



IIRC he can't be traded before end of 1st season in his contract. 
Earliest he can leave is summer of 2022

(12-15-2020, 04:12 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: I dont think he screwed up.  It would be like Dirk going to join Kobe in LA to win more titles.  

This is great for the NBA instead of all the douches that want to team up to form superteams.

(12-16-2020, 08:19 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: You can say what you want, but this clearly was a victory for small market teams. I'm glad he stayed put. 

(12-16-2020, 11:47 AM)khaled1987 Wrote: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/260841/Giannis-Antetokounmpo-Showed-Bucks-Recruitment-Texts-From-Rival-Stars

So, which one of Mavs stars tried to recruit him? Luka or KP or both? 

(12-16-2020, 12:34 PM)hakeemfan Wrote: NBA used to be great when I could associate a great player with a specific team than wondering where the player would be after two seasons. I was not old enough to understand when Kareem forced a move.  So I am not saying old days were golden, but it was definitely better than now.

(12-16-2020, 12:34 PM)hakeemfan Wrote: NBA used to be great when I could associate a great player with a specific team than wondering where the player would be after two seasons. I was not old enough to understand when Kareem forced a move.  So I am not saying old days were golden, but it was definitely better than now.

(12-16-2020, 01:35 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: For you, sure. 

For me, too. 

For the younger generation, no. The NBA's consumption has gradually become more about the off-season player movement than it is about the on-court product. Journalists on twitter and highlights on youtube are what entire generations of NBA fans associate with the NBA. We don't like it, but that's "good old day syndrome" for sure. There's nothing wrong with thinking things were better in our day - that's the natural order of things. But, it's not going to trend back in that direction, I don't think, so which way is "better" is irrelevant. The way things are is how they are.

(12-16-2020, 01:35 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: For the younger generation, no. The NBA's consumption has gradually become more about the off-season player movement than it is about the on-court product. Journalists on twitter and highlights on youtube are what entire generations of NBA fans associate with the NBA. We don't like it, but that's "good old day syndrome" for sure. 

(12-15-2020, 11:05 PM)BolsDamols Wrote: I'm over it
Cant really imagine myself rooting for someone like Giannis
His last name is really difficult to spell
Much easier to root for someone like Kyle Guy

(12-16-2020, 05:11 PM)FunkBoreland Wrote: Really? Since when did last names have to be easy for a person to root for. If you like how they play, if they got a story you like, and especially if they play for your team, you root for those players (are you Kings fan?). This is the first time I hear someone not root for a player simply because of a difficult name.

(12-15-2020, 09:34 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: This is the best scenario for the Mavs. Giannis stays in the east. On a team that won´t be good enough to beat the Mavs. They don´t have any assets to add more talent and really lack depth.
Mavs can finally move on and focus on deals that add longterm salary instead of chasing the pipe dream.

Oh and I nearly forgot the most important point...

(12-15-2020, 09:36 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Man, THIS is the truth, for sure. I feel sorry for the guy. Way worse for him than it is for the Mavs.