(06-21-2023, 01:28 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think the deal has to involve a 3rd team. WAS doesn't want long term salary. 

Maybe the Mavs can swoop in and provide some expiring contracts and are paid with a vet or two from BOS.

(06-21-2023, 02:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: So does that put Chris Paul out of the Clippers plans?  Lakers, Miami, Milwaukee....any other options?

(06-21-2023, 02:23 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I think Mavs fans greatly undervalue KP.  Top 10 defensive big and 6th in 3ptM for bigs at 38.5%3pt.

(06-21-2023, 03:46 PM)SweetFidelia Wrote: In 25% of Boston's playoff games, Joe Mazzulla felt Grant Williams wasn't worth playing for even 1 second (5 playoff DNPs).  His attempts to "get tough" and get in Jimmy Butler's head in the ECF is high comedy.  Jimmy kept giving him a wedgie and taking his lunch money.  If you get 3 DNPs (really 4) against the Hawks in a 6 game series, you are automatically disqualified from playing on my favorite team.

(06-21-2023, 03:48 PM)Jym Wrote: Guess it works out if we can do something special with the 10th pick but you gotta think that we make the playoffs with KP on the team this past year

(06-21-2023, 04:04 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: People already forgot that the Mavs looked a lot better after KP left. Mavs made the WCF without. That´s why I would be super hesitant to add a big that a) cannot switch the pick and roll b) likes to post up / isn´t a willing pick&roll player.

They are missing Brunson (the depth they gave up to replace Brunson...SD + DFS).

(06-21-2023, 04:12 PM)Jym Wrote: Still hate that early that year they were playing KP and Powell so much together

Brunson, Bullock, Luka, DFS, KP starting and ending games would have won a lot too. WCF? Maybe not. Maxi played so well in those 2 series that we won and KP being there would have dampened that a lot

(06-21-2023, 04:04 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: People already forgot that the Mavs looked a lot better after KP left. Mavs made the WCF without him. That´s why I would be super hesitant to add a big that a) cannot switch the pick and roll b) likes to post up / isn´t a willing pick&roll player.

(06-21-2023, 04:33 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Yeah and last year showed that had less to do with KP and more to do with Jalen Brunson

(06-21-2023, 02:02 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1141416094286188545
https://twitter.com/All_Things_Mavs/status/1143915951517290496

(06-21-2023, 05:33 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Sure, that’s a great point. But, getting KP out of the way obviously helped Brunson quite a bit. It was obvious that the entire mindset of the team changed for the positive the second that deal went down.

I’m really struggling with this idea that last year’s wizards season is any type of proof that Porziņģis is underrated around here. If he was half the player everyone thinks he should be, they would have been an actual good team. 

Further, he’s about to opt out and take what will be his last four year deal, so it seems pretty clear that his main motivation was to put up meaningless counting stats in order to best position himself for that payday.

Honestly, the place where this train started to go off of the rails was the original Porzingis deal with New York. I wish the team could hit a button and go back to that point in time. Do things better.

(06-21-2023, 04:03 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Solid points but on the other hand I think the new coach wasn't a huge fan.  Ime liked him more.    

While I don't like some of his antics and don't view him more than a good glue guy, I would be open to overpaying him a little.    He is tough (sure Jimmy made him eat his words, but I want guys to not back down.  Sometimes stars are stars), he can hit open threes and can defend physical players.   He is built like a truck and uses his body to his benefit.  Big fan of guys who aren't afraid to put a body on you. 

Mavs desperately need a guy who will piss other teams off.   If he is available, I would definitely have interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRfp7HHjKeg&t=91s

(06-21-2023, 05:33 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Sure, that’s a great point. But, getting KP out of the way obviously helped Brunson quite a bit. It was obvious that the entire mindset of the team changed for the positive the second that deal went down.

I’m really struggling with this idea that last year’s wizards season is any type of proof that Porziņģis is underrated around here. If he was half the player everyone thinks he should be, they would have been an actual good team. 

Further, he’s about to opt out and take what will be his last four year deal, so it seems pretty clear that his main motivation was to put up meaningless counting stats in order to best position himself for that payday.

Honestly, the place where this train started to go off of the rails was the original Porzingis deal with New York. I wish the team could hit a button and go back to that point in time. Do things better.

(06-21-2023, 05:34 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: 2019

(06-21-2023, 03:57 PM)Knutsen Wrote: Porzingis as a top 10 defensive big really throws shade on your calculation model, Pavel… He always had a couple of blocks, but so had Shawn Bradley. Doesn’t pass the eye test for me at all, he gets roasted after every switch and bullied by post players.