(06-18-2023, 01:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Evidence: 2016 NBA championship in which Kyrie hit the go-ahead clutch 3 to seal the win. He averaged 25 a game on 47.5/44/87.5 shooting (Finals alone he averaged 27 a game on 47/40/94). His playoff averages: 23ppg on 45/40/90. 

In the regular season prior to joining the Mavs, Kyrie's teams have averaged: 49.9 wins a season (60% win pace). 

There is the evidence.

(06-18-2023, 03:34 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: So Beal just traded to Suns.  Not sure about the details but sounds like it’s for Chris Paul, Shamat, and multiple 2nds.

(06-18-2023, 03:43 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Word is Booker impressed so much at the point in the playoffs, he'll be the primary ball handler.  They now have 3.75 max contracts.  Yikes.  Obviously the new owner wants to fill out their roster with spares.

Do y'all still think they'll move Ayton?  IMO this shows they're going top heavy and depth be damned.

(06-18-2023, 04:25 PM)loki Wrote: Phoenix now with 3 max contracts. After Booker's salary jumps next year they will all be making 35% of the cap. Interesting choice considering the new CBA.

(06-18-2023, 03:36 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I think if the Mavs want Ayton, they should offer Bullock, McGee and Kleber. Suns might do that. Gives them a lot more depth. Just admit defeat and build for the future. You are not coming out of the West next season.

(06-18-2023, 04:33 PM)JamesConway912 Wrote: If there’s a path to Ayton without touching #10 I guess you gotta give it a shot. 

Kyrie 
Luka
Ayton
#10

plus whoever is left of Kleber/Hardy/Green would be a pretty strong foundation.

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Yeah something like that for Ayton would have me intrigued

(06-18-2023, 05:58 AM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Pretty sure that's what they thought about McGee, as well!

(06-18-2023, 05:01 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: We are traveling and my wife asked why I was grabbing my iPad because nothing changed since the last time I looked this morning.  Ha!  Jokes on her (unfortunately, she has no idea who Beal and CP3 are).

There will be other deals like this where the return will seem ridiculous.  But a small number of teams are going to be willing to spend if they have some star power in place already.  Others will go way out of their way to move off of bad money.  Beal is bad money.  People seem to understand Atlanta might have to pay to move Collins in the mid-20’s, but can’t understand how Beal might not draw a return in the mid-50’s?  

I tend to doubt Paul will be waived.  The Wiz had to guarantee more of his money to make the trade match work.  Do you waive him for $25mm or play him for $30mm?  I think the latter.  

Phoenix is at about $161mm for four players.  So, they presumably will try to fit 10 more players in about $18mm of salary?  It is an almost certainty that LAC and GSW will operate over the second apron for at least a year.  Why not Phoenix?

I don’t have a good read on Ayton at this point.  Phoenix should probably try to get 2-3 guys who are 5th-7th man types.  Surely some other team has more of these type pieces who are better than Reggie, Maxi and McGee.  It doesn’t feel to me like Dallas can get something like that done without at least some draft compensation or one of our youngsters (not necessarily #10…could be the pick(s) we have left after a trade down).

(06-18-2023, 05:01 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I tend to doubt Paul will be waived.  The Wiz had to guarantee more of his money to make the trade match work.  Do you waive him for $25mm or play him for $30mm?  I think the latter.  

(06-18-2023, 03:43 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Do y'all still think they'll move Ayton?  

(06-18-2023, 03:58 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: WTF is WAS strategy here?  S/W CP3 and go with scorched Earth?  With this trade and if they S/W CP3, they only have Kuzma and KP (if he doesn't opt out) as real NBA starters.  I'd love Kuzma in Mavs uni.