(06-14-2023, 02:53 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I'm trading Zion way before I'm trading Ingram.

If you're trading Ingram, you might as well start over/rebuild.

(06-14-2023, 04:02 PM)F Gump Wrote: There is talk that NO might dangle Zion (or Ingram) in trying to get the pick to draft Scoot.

If you are CHA or POR, and Zion is the bait, what are you offering to land him? It has to start with your 2023 pick, but then what? The salary to match on Zion is about 33M in 2023-24 salary. (The nature of his contract, with a massive raise looming in July, would probably lead to it being a delayed trade executed after July 1).

(06-14-2023, 04:12 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: It is interesting.    Zion obviously has injury and long term availability concerns.   But if I was Portland I would jump at a Zion offer.   #3 if Scoot is still there is a real good starting point.    Not sure what else is needed. 

But a healthy Zion with Dame is a great starting point.  I am really high on Sharpe too.   That could be a really good team.   Big if though.  

I think Charlotte should jump at that as well.   It is a major concern with Zion's health but you very rarely get a chance at that type of talent at that age often.

If the Mavs lucked out and got the second pick, I would be all over this....risks and all.  I wouldn't even care if we signed Kyrie after.

(06-14-2023, 04:12 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: If the Mavs lucked out and got the second pick, I would be all over this....risks and all.  I wouldn't even care if we signed Kyrie after.

(06-13-2023, 02:59 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: So my trade would be 10/Bertans for 16/28 + KO.

(06-14-2023, 06:10 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: This is such a no brainer, I almost assume it is the starting point of the offseason.

What if we combine this with the ESPN thing with Detroit that everyone hated.  #10/THJ for #31/Bojan is kind of ridiculous.  But sometimes people like Givoney know part of the story but not the entire story.  

My preference would be THJ/#28 for Bojan (so Dallas would have 16)

The less favorable version would be THJ/#16 for Bojan/#31 (so Dallas would have 28 and 31)

I realize Bojan/Olynyk/lower pick isn't most people's idea of a good time.  But, maybe we have to look at this as a two step process.  Olynyk is expiring.  Bojan in only guaranteed $2mm in 24/25.  By next summer we'd have a path to sizeable cap space if we want it and/or the ability to trade multiple picks (presumably).  

Bojan/Olynyk are certainly better than THJ/Bertans in the short run.  If the price is moving down from 10 to 16 (Lively) and it gives us a better shot at big things in 24, then I could live with it.  If we end up with 28/31 instead of 16, then Nico better have two more Hardy's hiding somewhere on his draft board.

(06-14-2023, 06:30 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Considering how many rumors there are of teams targeting Lively in the early teens, I think there's about as much chance of him being available at 16 as there is of Cam Whitmore being available at 10, tbh.

(06-14-2023, 06:10 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: This is such a no brainer, I almost assume it is the starting point of the offseason.

What if we combine this with the ESPN thing with Detroit that everyone hated.  #10/THJ for #31/Bojan is kind of ridiculous.  But sometimes people like Givoney know part of the story but not the entire story.  

My preference would be THJ/#28 for Bojan (so Dallas would have 16)

The less favorable version would be THJ/#16 for Bojan/#31 (so Dallas would have 28 and 31)

I realize Bojan/Olynyk/lower pick isn't most people's idea of a good time.  But, maybe we have to look at this as a two step process.  Olynyk is expiring.  Bojan in only guaranteed $2mm in 24/25.  By next summer we'd have a path to sizeable cap space if we want it and/or the ability to trade multiple picks (presumably).  

Bojan/Olynyk are certainly better than THJ/Bertans in the short run.  If the price is moving down from 10 to 16 (Lively) and it gives us a better shot at big things in 24, then I could live with it.  If we end up with 28/31 instead of 16, then Nico better have two more Hardy's hiding somewhere on his draft board.

(06-14-2023, 08:12 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Yes. To piggyback on the Beal rumors, I’m looking at Gafford and Kuzma. If the new Wiz FO blows it up. 

Mavs: Gafford, Olynk, 28

Jazz: Bertans, 10

Wiz: Mcgee, 16

(06-14-2023, 08:54 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: Gafford is all right. I remember wanting us to draft him what seems like forever ago now. But he makes like 12-14 per year for 3 more years. I’d say he’s in bad contract territory. I’d rather roll with the cheap Center by committee again then take on another bad contract to hamstring things further. Every year there are cheap, league minimum bigs available.

(06-14-2023, 11:29 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/BiasedSlightly/status/1669172174479933441?s=20

(06-14-2023, 10:35 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: If we have 16 and 28 and Olynyk and Washington is breaking it up, are they building around Avdija (who is RFA next summer) or would they rather have 16?  McGee is a trade match.

(06-14-2023, 11:38 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: I would love Avdija on the Mavs.
But pick 16 does not look to be enough to get him. (Maybe if the Mavs have a few seconds, that would help, but Mavs kept on giving those up away).

(06-14-2023, 11:57 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: What I truly want from the Wiz is Kuzma.

He is a wing with size.
Is decent on defense, and can do a lot of things.
Can facilitate, rebound, shoot the 3 and attack the hoop.

Could THJ+2027pick+whoever the Mavs pick at 28 (assuming they got it) be enough for a SNT?