(04-10-2024, 11:22 AM)omahen Wrote: I think George is in any case a very unlikely option. Not having a SnT option is another big obstacle making it far less likely to happen. Mavs would also get over the second apron. Other than that, THJ, Maxi, Green and Powell would be the salary needed to match his player option. George replaces THJ and Green. We would need to hope OMax can replace Maxi. Powell is a third string center and would be replaced by a vet min guy.

(04-10-2024, 11:02 AM)omahen Wrote: Mavs have Luka, Kyrie and one of the centers as a lock in the starting unit. This means they need a big wing guarding best opposing big wing and a point of attack defender. The more those guys can do on offense the better. 

I like Green, but he is obviously not a big wing and he is imho also a not particularly good point of attack defender, especially when navigating screens. I think both Exum and DJJ are better in that role. Green is a better shooter than DJJ, but his low volume doesn't really bring much of an advantage. 

When we are talking about improving Mavs, it is highly unlikely that Luka, Kyrie or center tandem will be touched. Changing a bench role player or two also doesn't really do much for the team. The only real improvement is upgrading one of the starting positions. One of those that are currently occupied by PJ and DJJ. 

Mavs have currently Exum, DJJ, Green, THJ and Hardy all able to play the "small wing" position. Difficult to give minutes to everyone as it is. Hardy is barely playing and in his season three Mavs will have to make a decision to either give him higher minutes or move on. If you bring in another guy on the position and plan to play him as a starter, there will simply not be enough minutes for two of the guys listed. Guys I have least troubles missing are Green and THJ (I am also not attached to Hardy). Green might also have value as some team might see more in him in a different role. Not that I don't like him, but I don't think Mavs would particularly miss him if an upgrade is in question at the position.

(04-10-2024, 12:48 PM)F Gump Wrote: The bigger problem imo is the idea that LAC would be interested in trading PG at all, and for that package. That sure seems unrealistic to me.

(04-10-2024, 02:51 PM)michaeltex Wrote: Personally, I don't think PG is a fit. He's 33, turning 34 in May, so not on a timeline with the core group. Kyrie is almost 2 years younger. PG is somewhat fragile, so we don't need another training room body. He definitely had some good early years, but I don't know how he fits with DAL. Between Luka, Kyrie, PJ, Gaff, DLive, Exum, DJJ and Maxi, there is plenty of offense so PG's contribution would eat into someone else's stats. And I'm not sure he brings anything defensively DAL doesn't already have.

IMO, we can spend whatever resources it would take for PG somewhere else.

(04-10-2024, 01:12 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: Our best hope at upgrading this summer is to upgrade Josh Green.  Offering Josh Green and the 2031 1st-round pick for Alex Caruso

(04-10-2024, 12:41 PM)The Jom Wrote: Nebulous or nucleus?

Interesting names you list there. Nice collection of potential. But I wonder. 

Having the ability to go with Kyrie, Luka, DJJ, PJ, Maxi maybe gives us the best (and biggest) small-ball playable lineup in the league. Will teams really keep going small against us in the playoffs? If I’m Minny or Denver, I want no part of small ball vs. these Mavs. I’m all in on my bigs vs. Gafford, Lively, etc. Perhaps we should be looking ahead to Wemby and the Spurs. But even then, I dunno. After years of having only Maxi who could play big against the littles, just maybe we now have an abundance of riches in that very important niche? 

Guys capable of playing small-ball 5 or at least 4 at a championship level:

PJ, Maxi, DJJ, Luka, Lively (probably), Omax (eventually), even Gafford (maybe)?

Remember that, not very long ago, THJ and DP were getting a lot of those minutes.

(04-10-2024, 01:12 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: Agree with your post.   Our best hope at upgrading this summer is to upgrade Josh Green.  Offering Josh Green and the 2031 1st-round pick for Alex Caruso is probably about the biggest upgrade we could obtain with our limited resources.  I'm not certain that the Bulls would accept that offer but Caruso is only under contract for one more season so it's a possibility.  I've been a big Josh Green supporter but his inability to improve defensively is really disturbing.

(04-10-2024, 05:04 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: We shouldn't be chasing Caruso.  We should be scouting for the next Caruso.  Or better yet...  the next OG.  Eason fits that mold.

(04-10-2024, 05:04 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: We shouldn't be chasing Caruso.  We should be scouting for the next Caruso.  Or better yet...  the next OG.  Eason fits that mold.

(04-11-2024, 08:00 AM)soog Wrote: I was perusing stats last night looking for targets and Jalen Johnson on the Hawks really jumped out as someone that has a lot of potential. Hawks seem pretty high on him but he is raw enough that maybe he is getable with an overpay?

The other team I keep coming back to is Portland. I don’t see how Jerami Grant fits in to their plans now that Dame is gone. I have to think he is getable for future assets. I realize he is already 30 but he is a long (7’3” wingspan) versatile player who can shoot and would fit well along Luka/Ky/PJ/Gafford. Another plus is he is locked up for a long time so Dallas's starting 5 will be stable for a number of years.

Even though I feel like it verges on being too much for a 30 year old player, would anyone here consider a deal of THJ + 2 FRPs + filler for Jerami Grant? Would Portland go for this?

(04-10-2024, 09:38 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: The Rockets won't trade us Tari Eason.  They see everything you see in him.  They're planning on making a Thunder-like leap this coming season.  Tari Eason is not available.  

Also, I admire your unconditional love for Tari Eason.  Never change.

(04-11-2024, 08:00 AM)soog Wrote: I was perusing stats last night looking for targets and Jalen Johnson on the Hawks really jumped out as someone that has a lot of potential. Hawks seem pretty high on him but he is raw enough that maybe he is getable with an overpay?

The other team I keep coming back to is Portland. I don’t see how Jerami Grant fits in to their plans now that Dame is gone. I have to think he is getable for future assets. I realize he is already 30 but he is a long (7’3” wingspan) versatile player who can shoot and would fit well along Luka/Ky/PJ/Gafford. Another plus is he is locked up for a long time so Dallas's starting 5 will be stable for a number of years.

Even though I feel like it verges on being too much for a 30 year old player, would anyone here consider a deal of THJ + 2 FRPs + filler for Jerami Grant? Would Portland go for this?

(04-11-2024, 09:04 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Just throwing this out there, if the Heat fail in the playoffs, or heck even miss the playoffs, how much would you be willing to offer for a potential Jimmy Butler deal? He's due for a max extension that will pay him till he's 38.

But in terms of fit, isn't he the ideal 3 that we'd want next to Kyrie and Luka?