(03-16-2024, 03:13 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Sure, but not really. Because, moves that make the roster "better" for some coaches, running some systems, don't fit into the plans of other coaches, running different systems. You really want THE guy who's going to be implementing the plan, longterm, to be in the mix on those decisions. Otherwise, you're spending resources for things you potentially might not want or need. 

It's basic, common sense.

(03-16-2024, 07:59 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: I’m fine with the big off-season addition being incorporating Omax into the rotation taking Maxi/DJJ minutes. Have to find out what we have in him. Same with Jaden Hardy. 

Obviously, if something falls into our lap and we can upgrade THJ we should do it. But I wouldn’t move him just to move him. Decent pick and expiring guy? Sure! Better fitting player, absolutely. But I wouldn’t give him away. 

I’m pretty vocal in my belief that Kidd is NOT the guy, but I don’t see much that isn’t fixable for a new coach. Pretty sure we can flip Gafford if we need to. Young, plays hard, fair contract. What we need to ascertain for certain by this time next year is whether Omax looks like a future starter (I think he is) and then whether Hardy has continued to develop enough to make him a keeper (and future THJ replacement.) Then we would be essentially saving assets for our next Kyrie-esque bucket getter to take pressure off of Luka. I personally love the way everything is set up going forward. Yes I wish we had a bevy of picks and a new coach. But aside from that, the roster build and talent scouting is light years better than before.

(03-16-2024, 04:04 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Totally.

And to be fair, if Kidd is the guy longterm, then sure, build the team according to his vision. It's only my opinion, but after giving him what I considered to be a clean slate this season, I just don't like what he's doing, sorry. I don't know if the Mavs decision makers are even stopping to consider whether coaching is an issue right now, obviously, but man, I sure would be if I were in their place. 

T0 the current MBT's credit, the team is athletic in a way that Donnie/Carlise never seemed to value much. I like that part. I just don't like anything about what they're doing defensively (unless they're playing Kleber and Washington together) and I CAN'T STAND the approach to offensive spacing and ball movement. I just don't understand a decision to play any other way than what gives Luka and Kyrie the most possible space to operate.

(03-16-2024, 08:11 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Question, y'all... What is Kidd's system? Do you really think he has a vision and scheme, or just coaches the talent he's given? IMO, he's the latter.

How Kidd handled Kyrie and fitting him with Luka last year is coaching malpractice.  Do you really think the problem is Kyrie didn't fit his system, or that he coaches what he has and is 
s-l-o-w to scheme?

(03-16-2024, 08:11 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Question, y'all... What is Kidd's system? Do you really think he has a vision and scheme, or just coaches the talent he's given? IMO, he's the latter.

How Kidd handled Kyrie and fitting him with Luka last year is coaching malpractice.  Do you really think the problem is Kyrie didn't fit his system, or that he coaches what he has and is 
s-l-o-w to scheme?

(03-17-2024, 12:22 AM)Jakeospikez Wrote: Think it's clear Kidd's/Sweeney's system prefers mobile switchable bigs over drop coverage ones. I disagree on the spacing with a rim roller though, if you had to give up one or the other, it looks like an elite vertical spacer/rim roller is more important than a big that is average at shooting 3s and camps on a 3 point line somewhere. Maxi offers pretty much no vertical spacing or rim rolling in his current condition and the offense is not looking good with him. Maxi is Grant Williams level on drives and can only capitalize if the lane is completely vacated with someone on the other team falling asleep. Lively/Gafford are elite vertical spacers and DJJ has slashing and a vertical game as well.
Maybe OMax (if you ever think the PJ trade is bad you need to consider him still being on the roster as part of the deal) can save the day in a season or 2 with some more versatile lineups instead of Maxi.

(03-16-2024, 03:09 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: He's already started half the games on a championship team.

THJ upgrade?  He shoots 1/5 fewer 3's, twice the rebounds, twice the assists, over 5% better fg%, and is a much better defender.  There is no comparison between the two players.  Kuzma is a PF/SF.  THJ is a SG/SF.  We need a PF/SF, as a starter.

Luka, Exum, Hardy
Kyrie, Green (6th man)
Kuzma, DJJ. OMax
PJ, Maxi
Gafford, Lively

Only weakness is backup PF

(03-17-2024, 01:43 PM)mvossman Wrote: I know there is not much point in arguing this as the Kuz train has passed (thank god) but there is so much wrong with this post.

He did not start half the games for a championship team.  He started 9 games.  In that playoffs he didn't start a single game, played a little over 20 minutes a game with inefficient chucking and had the worst on/off on the team.  I have no idea why folks use that playoff run as a positive for him.  Grant Williams did more in the Celtics finals run.

Your comparison with Tim is flawed.  Tim has the better true shooting 4 of the last 5 years (every healthy season).  Kuz has more assists, but a much worse assist to turnover ratio and he still manages to put up more shots.  I don't think Kuz is a much better defender than anyone.  Folks get frustrated with Timmy because he takes bad shots and plays bad defense.  It will be even more annoying with Kuz because he will do it from the starting lineup after we paid a lot more for him.  

Why do we need another PF/SF as a starter when we already have PJ and (defensively) Luka?  What we need is a point of attack defender.  Thats why we have been rotating Green/DJJ/Exum.

(03-17-2024, 01:56 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: My point is there is no comparison between THJ and Kuzma.  They're completely different players.

(03-18-2024, 03:34 AM)MAVS-SLO Wrote: After a good deadline day when we finally managed to get a balance in the roster without losing something significant, i was a looking also in the offseason ahead of us.



In my opinion perfect trade partners can again be Brooklyn Nets. They are (again) in very bad series and their probably biggest dissapointment are 2 former suns players, Bridges and Johnson.

Also a lot of Nets fans are calling them to trade them, so i was thinking if 2 FRP + expiring contracts might be enough to get him here. Or 1 FRP for Johnson.

Lively - Gafford
PJ - DJJ - Omax
? - Green
Luka - Hardy
Kyrie - Exum

If we can add Bridges or Cam Johnson there for THJ and Maxi expiring alongside with FRP's that's finally a team you can call a contender.

(03-17-2024, 01:43 PM)mvossman Wrote: I know there is not much point in arguing this as the Kuz train has passed (thank god) but there is so much wrong with this post.

He did not start half the games for a championship team.  He started 9 games.  In that playoffs he didn't start a single game, played a little over 20 minutes a game with inefficient chucking and had the worst on/off on the team.  I have no idea why folks use that playoff run as a positive for him.  Grant Williams did more in the Celtics finals run.

Your comparison with Tim is flawed.  Tim has the better true shooting 4 of the last 5 years (every healthy season).  Kuz has more assists, but a much worse assist to turnover ratio and he still manages to put up more shots.  I don't think Kuz is a much better defender than anyone.  Folks get frustrated with Timmy because he takes bad shots and plays bad defense.  It will be even more annoying with Kuz because he will do it from the starting lineup after we paid a lot more for him.  

Why do we need another PF/SF as a starter when we already have PJ and (defensively) Luka?  What we need is a point of attack defender.  Thats why we have been rotating Green/DJJ/Exum.

(03-18-2024, 12:54 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Hopefully Green's injury will make them realize that he's not as valuable as they think and they will finally be willing to trade him - either as part of package for an upgrade or worst-case, a similar player on an expiring contract. DJJ is just a better player for the role that they require both of them and sending Green out might give them more ability to re-sign DJJ. Green might be the better shooter but DJJ has the size and length to be more effective as an all-around player. That's the type of role player/wing that this team requires.

Green is not a bad player by any means but he just isn't as good of a fit here in that role. You saw what he was able to do when he had more opportunities due to injuries prior to the trade deadline. But after the trades, he fell behind PJ in the offensive pecking order (already behind THJ too) so at best, he would be 5th or lower in the rotation in terms of shots. Green will be much better on a different team if he is more involved on offense and playing more SG...that's why other teams know it too and have been interested in him during the past 2 deadlines. He will probably have a second-straight season shooting close to 50% overall and 40% on threes. The Mavs have to sell high!

(03-18-2024, 08:12 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Eason is a great idea.

I was reluctant earlier this season because I was so desperate for a big man and a dude with 2 way potential. Now that we got PJ and Gafford, I can definitely see the appeal for Eason.

I was listening to a Rusillo podcast with Bill Simmons and he mentioned Eason was a dude who just did all the right things on the court and was a winner. It grabbed my attention and funnily enough I thought of your previous posts about him earlier this season. 

My dream trade though if we wanted to aim a little bit higher would also be for Cam Johnson. Not only does he bring the size we've been after these last 2 years as he's 6'8, he is a bonafide shooter as well. I can easily see him step into that Maxi role.