(02-14-2024, 05:33 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: FWIW, here's what Stein wrote today on the subject.  (emphasis added was mine):


"Kuzma was the Mavericks’ top trade deadline target. The Wizards wanted two first-round picks in any Kuzma deal. When the teams’ Kuzma talks fizzled, they pivoted to a Daniel Gafford-to-Dallas trade that netted Washington a first-round pick in the upcoming June draft via Oklahoma City."

Carry on.

(02-14-2024, 06:46 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I am just guessing but I would guess it was two firsts, Williams, Holmes for Kizma and Gafford.  Two firsts for Kuzma I don’t think the Wizards GM turns that down or thinks of that offer as below value imo.  I think those two firsts would have brought both.  That is just a guess though.

(02-14-2024, 06:46 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I am just guessing but I would guess it was two firsts, Williams, Holmes for Kizma and Gafford.  Two firsts for Kuzma I don’t think the Wizards GM turns that down or thinks of that offer as below value imo.  I think those two firsts would have brought both.  That is just a guess though.

(02-14-2024, 07:01 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I’d also like to guess that it was Grant Williams, Holmes, Morris and two firsts for Avjida, Gafford, Kuzma, and 5 firsts back from Washington. And that Washington ALMOST did the deal, but backed out at the last minute because the owner’s wife had indigestion the night before the deal, which put her husband in a bad mood the following day, and in his conversation with the GM on the phone, he burped funny, causing his GM to get cold feet.

This demonstrates, without a doubt, the incredible, uncanny wisdom and resourcefulness of Nico, Lindsey, and Mark.

Any questions?

(02-14-2024, 05:37 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: The information everybody’s talking about post-dates that info by a couple of days. Still have to choose to believe it, of course, but both Kuzma and Windhorst are basically saying there was an agreed upon deal, whereas is that older Stein info makes it seem like the Mavs walked away over price. It seems pretty clear that that is not what happened.

At the end of the day, I’m just glad I don’t have to watch Kuzma play for the Mavericks.

(02-14-2024, 07:51 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Is it older?  Maybe you are right, but it came in an email from Stein this afternoon.

(02-14-2024, 05:06 PM)WillE Wrote: No one reported, that this would have been the offer.

My point is, that I think the FO already did enough to deserve more credit.

It's just tiring to constantly read so much negativity based on premature conclusions.

(02-15-2024, 03:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery
The Lakers view Trae Young as a third star who can help push for a championship now, but also bridge the gap to the future for a new era alongside Anthony Davis, per
@jovanbuha
(https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-athletic-nba-show/id1358187061?i=1000645477613).

Young, who is also represented by Klutch Sports, is likely going to be Los Angeles’ No. 1 trade target this offseason.

Los Angeles can trade upwards of three first-round picks and four swaps this offseason.

(02-15-2024, 03:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery
The Lakers view Trae Young as a third star who can help push for a championship now, but also bridge the gap to the future for a new era alongside Anthony Davis, per
@jovanbuha
(https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-athletic-nba-show/id1358187061?i=1000645477613).

Young, who is also represented by Klutch Sports, is likely going to be Los Angeles’ No. 1 trade target this offseason.

Los Angeles can trade upwards of three first-round picks and four swaps this offseason.

(02-15-2024, 06:53 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: Trey is fun to watch, but I doubt he ever wins a title as small as he is and how terrible he is as a defender. I hope the Lakers get him

(02-15-2024, 05:35 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: This summer is going to be absolutely bonkers imo.   Funny how the Lakers went from a team with no first round picks to trade to potentially having 3 to trade this offseason.  Philly has 50 million in cap space plus 5 first round picks (I heard that on a podcast).  There are going to be a ton of teams looking to be aggressive this offseason imo.   I am not sure how many true stars are going to be available either.

(02-15-2024, 10:40 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Yeah I was just thinking about that earlier. Not sure how much currency the Mavs three first rd picks would’ve had this summer. Might have been the reason they decided to make some moves now.

(02-15-2024, 06:14 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral
“New Orleans has to make a decision between Zion and Ingram. I think that happens this summer.” ?

- Eastern Conference exec

(02-15-2024, 10:40 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Yeah I was just thinking about that earlier. Not sure how much currency the Mavs three first rd picks would’ve had this summer. Might have been the reason they decided to make some moves now.

(02-15-2024, 10:40 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Yeah I was just thinking about that earlier. Not sure how much currency the Mavs three first rd picks would’ve had this summer. Might have been the reason they decided to make some moves now.

(02-16-2024, 12:02 AM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: Yeah, I mean knowing what we know now, would you rather have PJ for one pick and GW gone (rumours that Charlotte had wanted him previously) or possibly get in a bidding for someone like Jerami Grant this summer who makes more than twice as much, really seems to needs the ball and to shoot a lot and cost at least two first round picks? Seen in this light, PJ is a relative bargain!