(02-07-2024, 07:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: It’s worse than that. Luka and Kuzma have a history of sort of bickering at each other back-and-forth through the press.

Seriously, I can really not think of very many people who would be worse targets for the Mavericks. I can’t believe they’re actually interested. Were they to make a deal for Kyle Kuzma, I would probably yank back some of the respect I have given the front office recently. 

Even after watching Grant Williams suck here for half of the season, I’d still be more excited about keeping him in place and hoping he breaks out of the funk than I would be about adding Kyle Kuzma. He is a loser to the third degree.

(02-07-2024, 04:18 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: Honestly, when reading the last couple of pages and seeing the number of fans who are in favor of standing pat.... I don't really know what to say. This team is in year 6 of Luka, and no closer to a title than his first year here. I can't understand it, I wish I did, so then I could atleast raise a glass to y'all and say cheers, we all on the same page, Luka is going to lead us to the promised land, by himself. :'D

That old saying is so apt here... the people get the government they deserve. You all deserve Cuban.

For me, I'm just wishing that Luka forces a way to Utah. Danny Ainge will build a proper team around him in 6 months flat.

(02-07-2024, 08:40 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Enough of the jazz stuff.  Go find a Jazz board if you are a fan of them.   I hear they made a trade today.  

This front office does not deserve a lot of faith.  I think we would all like a trade to improve the team.   But it appears even a first and a young player may not be enough for some of the solid, not spectacular guys.  So, we should be opportunistic.   Do a trade now and it is the wrong trade, we may not be able to recover as we would have used several future assets.    So for me a bad trade is a lot worse than no trade.   If you could tell me adding Kuzma or PJ Washington makes a contender than tell me where to sign up.   I don't think either of those trades get us in the top 4 in the west.

(02-07-2024, 08:38 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: At the same time he does have 28 in 22 minutes so far tonight. Halfway through the 3rd. Does his low bbiq have something to do with him being on the lowest bbiq team in tbe NBA? Or was he the same on the Lakers?

(02-07-2024, 09:13 PM)Winter Wrote: I'm one of those guys who really expects a trade. The team needs to be bigger. But I'm also realistic about value.

Right now, everything rumored seems to be too costly... and the players available don't seem like real game changers. Perhaps if there was a larger trade rather than discussions of player vs player, it would be different.

In my mind, the only player rumored recently that I truly liked was WCJ.  The secondary player I liked was Portis, but at a different price. Neither seem to be available within a reasonable cost. I hope the Mavs find a backup center at least, but that's about the extent of my expectation now. Kuzma and PJ Washington don't make this team a finals contender at the cost rumored. Unless there's a surprise, a rebounding big man is my best hope at this stage.

(02-07-2024, 09:37 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Cuban wants Kuz, he has a connection to Kidd. Mavs have the assets. Feels like it’s gonna happen and we might as well rationalize it.

(02-07-2024, 09:37 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Cuban wants Kuz, he has a connection to Kidd. Mavs have the assets. Feels like it’s gonna happen and we might as well rationalize it.

(02-07-2024, 10:10 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Cubes was very specific in his description -- someone 6'8" or taller who can handle the ball a bit.
You guys may scoff about it, but there's another clue -- something Kuz said about the Mavs needing another piece to contend. Yes that's pretty audacious of him to say it, but it's a clue nonetheless.

It wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility, Cubes and Kuz had talked about this privately.
Kuz is the primary target all along.

BUT.. I'm just hoping Cubes is smart enough on where to draw the line.

Kuz is NOT worth a FRP+Green, not even worth a FRP+Omax.
I wouldn't even include Maxi in any deal for him.

Unlike most here, I am not enamored with the FRP, I think JG can get you a minimum of 1 FRP, if the Mavs really need to get one. I trust Omax too to be useful next season. 

I'd start with GW+Holmes+Hardy+2 SRPs.
But could go as far as THJ+GW+Hardy+FRP (already an overpay but this is the limit of what the Mavs should give)

No JG, No Omax, No Maxi in any deal.

(02-07-2024, 10:17 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: Be prepared to be disappointed. None of those offers are landing Kuzma. Either Green or Omax will be outgoing in any Kuzma trade.

(02-07-2024, 09:37 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Cuban wants Kuz, he has a connection to Kidd. Mavs have the assets. Feels like it’s gonna happen and we might as well rationalize it.

(02-07-2024, 10:23 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: I hope the Mavs walk away from any deal involving Omax and/or Green.
The FRP and Hardy is enough.
I like Kuz, but not so much to take away Omax or Green.
Would rather not trade for Kuz if that's the case.

But yeah, if Cubes is insisting on Kuz, Mavs could probably lose all 3 (Green+Omax+FRP).

(02-07-2024, 09:37 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Cuban wants Kuz, he has a connection to Kidd. Mavs have the assets. Feels like it’s gonna happen and we might as well rationalize it.

(02-07-2024, 11:46 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Prediction for a Mavs trade?  Probably not or very minor, like moving a second round pick. But, if a significant trade happens, I expect it to be with the Nets.  The Nets can give the Mavs more value, probably a lot more value than they send out and the Nets get to play the correlated parley game with two Mavs draft choices. From what I understand, that kind of bet isn’t legal most places in Vegas, but nothing is stopping the Mavs and Nets from partaking. It’s in their interests.