(02-06-2024, 02:02 PM)omahen Wrote: I think exactly that would happen, if you bring in a 2-way wing. A good player will need his shots and THJ is taking them at the moment. You can't get them elsewhere. Mavs will not create more shots nor you can even further reduce shots of Green/Exum if they keep playing. Perhaps shots structure will be different.

The only thing THJ is good add is taking a lot of shots. Replace that with someone who can also play defense, and you have something.

(02-06-2024, 02:18 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I don't believe you can mix and match positions the way you're describing. 

Yes, offense can come from different positions than were it currently comes from, but that doesn't mean players all of a sudden know the responsibilities (or have the right non-scoring skills for) random new positions. It doesn't work like that, especially during season when there's no practice time to fix stuff.

(02-06-2024, 02:16 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: The OMax omission was oversight! My bad.

Although I could see WAS want him over Hardy. I'm not sure I'd do the deal with him in it, as foolish as that may seem. 

I don't think bench scoring would be an issue. You'd have 2 of Luka, Kyrie, and Wiggins on the court at any time. Wiggins even in this state is still putting up around 12 a game. Deni can score as well. 

We'd just need Green+Exum+DJJ to stay healthy for it to work. That lineup did well in December.

(02-06-2024, 09:53 AM)youzigizag Wrote: I loved Herb Jones breakout post season performance his rookie year.  Was that the bubble?   

I dont know his contract details...I absolutely like his length and defense.

But man o man...his offense is worse than DFS's.   The few times I have seen him put it on the floor and try and finish at the rim has been very bad.   Maybe I just caught him at bad times.   

I would just be very worried we get another player with major fundamental flaws.   We gain size and length and defense...but I think its fair to say that Mavs need players with well rounded fundamentals.   The past 4 years we have been stuck with many rotation players that have weird fundamental warts and it seems to be a real issue even if the players fit the system.   

I like the idea of going cheaper for Jones than Wiggins....absolutely.

(02-06-2024, 02:25 PM)omahen Wrote: and DJJ take all remaining PG/SG and SF minutes 

(02-06-2024, 02:37 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I don't agree, sorry. We'll see.

(02-06-2024, 02:31 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: I think his offense is better than DFS. He's been making small improvements to what he does on the court each season. I'd go so far as to say he's like a rich man's DFS, on offense and defense. He is also the "right" age, at 25yo.

The Pels signed him to a new deal in the off-season.
2023-24: $12,015,150
2024-25: $12,976,362
2025-26: $13,937,574
2026-27: $14,898,786

(02-06-2024, 02:43 PM)omahen Wrote: Lets say you bring in Grant. A player who is used to take 15+ shots per game and is efficient doing it. Where does he get his shots from? Because I doubt he would be satisfied with GW role taking roughly 5 shots per game. Getting a guy like that changes the offense and roles of players.

I think there is no other way but to cancel the THJ role in such a case. Exum and Green are good shooters and satisfied taking limited shots. THJ would not contribute much, if you take away the only strength he has - taking shots.

(02-06-2024, 03:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Sure, but we're talking about two different things. My take has nothing to do with where shots come from, it has to do with something far more basic and obvious, like who is ABLE to and UNDERSTANDS how to play what position. 

We all understand that you can't play Rudy Gobert at PG, which is the most extreme example I can think of, but I don't agree with you that DJJ even CAN play guard or SF. It's not about would I, it's about I don't think he CAN. I could be wrong, but I don't agree with all the POA defender stuff people have said about him this year. I think basically the same thing I thought about him before the season - what makes him interesting is how he defends UP and then is way faster/more athletic than his opposition as a result. I'm not interested in him defending down, really, and I don't want anything to do with him being left open for threes at the WING instead of the CORNER. Sorry, I just don't like it. 

I think THJ and mystery new guest would be fine with the amount of great shots that could go around in the new balance of things, since you bring it up. Both of their attempts would go do down a little, but they'd be GREAT attempts. And honestly, THJ would HIT them, as would the new guy, I hope. DJJ, and Williams would NOT hit them, which is part of why this is an area of need to begin with.

(02-06-2024, 03:41 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @BrettSiegelNBA
A trade involving PJ Washington appears to be likely before Thursday, sources said, as the Dallas Mavericks have suddenly emerged as a top trade suitor for him.

(02-06-2024, 03:44 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Rumors flying rapidly now.

If the Grimes-to-Mavs rumor was true, does that mean they have a trade for THJ lined up?  Or Curry?  Or Hardy?

(02-06-2024, 03:48 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: " A trade involving Washington appears to be likely before Thursday, sources said, as the Dallas Mavericks have suddenly emerged as a top trade suitor for him. Dallas is looking to add another key talent around Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving by utilizing the contracts of Richaun Holmes, Maxi Kleber, and Grant Williams, if needed. Charlotte is not going to be giving up Washington just for the sake of making a trade, which is why they have shown interest in Mavs swingman Josh Green, according to Marc Stein."

Grant Williams+Hardy for PJ feels good.

(02-06-2024, 03:54 PM)loki Wrote: Be prepared to lose the 27 1st if the Mavs are dumping a bad contract in the process. At least that's what I would ask for if I were Charlotte.

(02-06-2024, 03:48 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Grant Williams+Hardy for PJ feels good.