(02-06-2024, 08:49 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: All this talk about Wiggins has got me wondering... why not try really hard to get Herbert Jones instead? He does what Wiggins does on defense for a much smaller contract. Shoot the sherbert to me, Herbert!

Kyrie, Herbert, Luka, new PF, Lively

(02-06-2024, 08:49 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: All this talk about Wiggins has got me wondering... if the Mavs will not trade Kyrie for Dejounte, then why not try really hard to get Herbert Jones instead? He does what Wiggins does on defense for a much smaller contract. He also fits better between Luka-Kyrie than he would between Luka and a lesser offensive player than Kyrie, like a Luka-Dejounte. I'd give the Pels the 2027 FRP.  Shoot the sherbert to me, Herbert!

Kyrie, Herbert, Luka, new PF, Lively

(02-06-2024, 06:55 AM)omahen Wrote: All reports indicate that saving money is not a priority for GSW. Their only priority is being competitive or gaining flexibility/assets to become more competitive. That is why I don't think any ideas for them to give up assets to get out of Wiggins contract make a lot of sense, unless a true difference maker is going their way. Contracts Mavs would be able to offer are not that. GSW gets easily under the second apron by optimizing CP3 and Klay new deals (or letting one or both go).

(02-05-2024, 10:44 PM)The Jom Wrote: I would rather play THJ at the 4 (like we have been) than give up any assets for Boucher. Don’t like his game. Don’t think he holds up against the physicality that has been the Mavs’ Achilles heel.

Also here’s a sure-fire unpopular opinion: too early to give up on GW. 

And another: stop with the back-up center talk. Maxi is our backup center.

(02-05-2024, 11:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Nobody wants to even consider this, but I honestly think the best move might just be to stand pat and get healthy. I would love to get PJ Washington, but I am not willing to move Green for him.

I will be fine if they just don’t make a bad deal.

(02-06-2024, 10:16 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: I'm ok with not making a big trade. I dont think there is anything out there that makes us all that better.

I just want to add some size to this squad. I want a fighting chance against teams like Denver and Minny.  So something small like Grant for Portis. Or even a 2nd rounder for Drummond. We have to do something around the edges to even have a chance in the playoffs this year. But dont mortgage the future for a big swing.

(02-06-2024, 10:43 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: The ringer was asking if the Sixers should break it down and try to get assets for Tobias Harris?  I am not sure what Philly will do, but they may have trouble staying out of the playin if Embid misses the rest of the year.  I don't think a two team deal would work for Philly.  Would you do a three team trade where Hardaway and Grant went out and a first and expirings wind up in Philly.  Dallas gets Harris.    Is that a trade that improves the team, but not enough?

(02-06-2024, 09:53 AM)youzigizag Wrote: I loved Herb Jones breakout post season performance his rookie year.  Was that the bubble?   

I dont know his contract details...I absolutely like his length and defense.

But man o man...his offense is worse than DFS's.   The few times I have seen him put it on the floor and try and finish at the rim has been very bad.   Maybe I just caught him at bad times.   

I would just be very worried we get another player with major fundamental flaws.   We gain size and length and defense...but I think its fair to say that Mavs need players with well rounded fundamentals.   The past 4 years we have been stuck with many rotation players that have weird fundamental warts and it seems to be a real issue even if the players fit the system.   

I like the idea of going cheaper for Jones than Wiggins....absolutely.

(02-06-2024, 10:54 AM)Smitty Wrote: It’s looking more and more that Wiggins and/or PJW will be the wings available for what the Mavs have to offer. Adding in the Gwill-Portis rumor, a trade that balances the roster and one I’d be in favor of:

Mavs: PJW, Portis
CHA: Holmes, Hardy, SRP
Bucks: Gwill, SRP


Luka - Exum - Curry
Irving - THJ - Lawson*
Green - DJJ - Omax
PJW - Portis - Morris
Lively - Maxi - Powell

THJ remains once again for bench scoring. For those that want rid of Timmy, maybe you can do a swap for Hield, if he’s really in Rick’s doghouse. Mavs still stay below the tax line.

(02-06-2024, 11:17 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Green looks like the target of most teams, I hope any trade the Mavs would do, Josh would be out of it.
JG needs to stay.

(02-06-2024, 11:21 AM)omahen Wrote: Seems like Green and 2027 are best assets Mavs have. Looks like there is no serious market for THJ. Hardy imho is valued at a SRP. 23 teams passed Omax in the draft and I think he hasn't shown much to increase his valuation from the draft day. Based on that it is imho unlikely Mavs get an upgrade without using either (or both) of Green and 2027. I am fine with that.

(02-06-2024, 11:21 AM)omahen Wrote: Seems like Green and 2027 are best assets Mavs have. Looks like there is no serious market for THJ. Hardy imho is valued at a SRP. 23 teams passed Omax in the draft and I think he hasn't shown much to increase his valuation from the draft day. Based on that it is imho unlikely Mavs get an upgrade without using either (or both) of Green and 2027. I am fine with that.

(02-06-2024, 10:54 AM)Smitty Wrote: Adding in the Gwill-Portis rumor, a trade that balances the roster and one I’d be in favor of:

Mavs: PJW, Portis
CHA: Holmes, Hardy, SRP
Bucks: Gwill, SRP

(02-06-2024, 11:55 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I think the resulting lineup is good.  Bucks have apparently said they want more than GWill for Portis.  Do we think a second round pick moves the needle?

Is Hardy and a second enough for Charlotte to both eat Holmes and give us PJ?

Both deals feel light to me.  Do you do the same construct if Hardy goes to Milwaukee and our 2027 first goes to Charlotte and we keep our seconds (and Charlotte also takes Pat Connaughton)?  That starts to feel painful for Dallas...essentially 2027 and Hardy to upgrade from GWill to PJ and upgrade from Holmes to Portis.  But, a little bit painful is probably what it takes.

(02-06-2024, 11:55 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I think the resulting lineup is good.  Bucks have apparently said they want more than GWill for Portis.  Do we think a second round pick moves the needle?

Is Hardy and a second enough for Charlotte to both eat Holmes and give us PJ?

Both deals feel light to me.  Do you do the same construct if Hardy goes to Milwaukee and our 2027 first goes to Charlotte and we keep our seconds (and Charlotte also takes Pat Connaughton)?  That starts to feel painful for Dallas...essentially 2027 and Hardy to upgrade from GWill to PJ and upgrade from Holmes to Portis.  But, a little bit painful is probably what it takes.