(02-04-2024, 11:33 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Like  others, I'm not a fan of Green for PJ.  At best it is lateral and probably a step backwards.  I wonder if fans in Charlotte are saying the same exact thing or are welcoming such a swap.  Interesting how Green is the one teams want.  Brooklyn, Atlanta and now Charlotte.

I'm not such an absolutist on Green to turn down all trades involving him.  I like what you've put together above for the Mav's.  I'm an Avdija fan and really like his upside.  If you believe Green > PJ (or that Charlotte thinks so), their part of the deal is essentially Green/GWill for PJ/Richards.  That seems reasonable if they covet Green.

Then you've got 2027/Hardy for Avdija and eating some salary.  That doesn't seem crazy either (I wonder if they'd ask for OMax instead).  

It would be hard to pull off a deal with four outgoing players in a week where we play B2B on Monday and Tuesday and play again on Thursday.  Might just have to forfeit a game.  But, I think this is well done...plus it would be cool to see a deal with two Poison Pill players.  Dallas gets that TPE I've been talking about and it drags us a little bit further away from the first Apron next season (but not much when you include a minimum).

(02-05-2024, 01:59 AM)Jym Wrote: I think my biggest question now is what kind of a haul we could get for Kyrie
After missing out on OG and Siakam, none of the guys being mentioned seem like game changers.

(02-05-2024, 03:46 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Dejounte Murray:

“More than one team, apparently including the Nets, are concerned about his personality, that in the words of one source, “he is not about the right things.”

(02-04-2024, 10:11 PM)mvossman Wrote: I'm totally on board with making trades to address issues, I just don't want to go into it with the mindset that we have to.  That generally results in making bad trades.

(02-05-2024, 09:08 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Cato has some trade ideas.  No reporting, just throwing things out there

1) Kuzma for Grant Williams, Richaun Holmes, Jaden Hardy and 27 first.

2)Gaffrod for HOlmes, 25 second, 28 second

3) Wiggins and 26 first for Grant Williams and Richaun Holmes

Not much here.  The other trades he list are really out there.

(02-05-2024, 01:59 AM)Jym Wrote: I think my biggest question now is what kind of a haul we could get for Kyrie
After missing out on OG and Siakam, none of the guys being mentioned seem like game changers.

(02-04-2024, 09:17 PM)Smitty Wrote: Mavs: PJW, Richards, Avdija
Wizards: Holmes, Hardy, ‘27FRP (DAL)
Hornets: Green, GWill

This keeps the Mavs below the tax line and gives them a big defensive wing, starting PF, and backup Big on a great contract.

Luka - Exum - Curry
Irving - THJ
Avdija - DJJ - Omax
PJW - Maxi - Morris
Lively - Richards - Powell

THJ remains on the team and is a great expiring next year, while providing scoring from the second unit.

(02-05-2024, 09:36 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Woj reporting that the wizards are trying to keep Kuzma and that Kuzma wants to be there. Might just be trying to up the price through a mouthpiece but it’s starting to feel like more smoke around PJ Washington than Kuzma now which is a good thing.

(02-05-2024, 09:52 AM)mvossman Wrote: If this is true, I hope its Grant Williams instead of Green going out.  I would probably be willing to do the trade suggested above where we include Hardy and a second.

(02-05-2024, 09:57 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: What would satisfy you this trade deadline?

I would be satisfied if
1) we traded Kyrie for another star (not happening),
2) we acquired a starting level four without Luka, Lively, or OMax being included,
3) we got a backup center as well,
4) Green wasn't sent out unless he was being sort of replaced (cf. the Avdija ideas),
5) we held onto our '27 unless it's either Grant or the sort of Monty Hall haul suggested by Smitty,
6) no stinking Wiggins, and Kuzma only on the very cheap,
or 7) we did nothing because everything "available" was an overpay.

(02-05-2024, 09:36 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Woj reporting that the wizards are trying to keep Kuzma and that Kuzma wants to be there. Might just be trying to up the price through a mouthpiece but it’s starting to feel like more smoke around PJ Washington than Kuzma now which is a good thing.