(02-04-2024, 03:14 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: BTW, someone that has directional say in the organization agrees with upgrading the roster now.

(02-04-2024, 03:20 PM)omahen Wrote: It seems Charlotte likes Green and would be willing to act as a third team to get Green. At least this is how I read it. Charlotte doesn't have some strong picks to offer (I assume they will be reluctant to trade their picks, as they will all be very likely very high picks. First FRP they can trade is 2027 - either Miami one (lottery protected) or their own.

Lets say Charlotte would do Green for PJ straight up. Mavs would get stronger at PF, but another hole would open at SG, unless Exum gets and stays healthy. I would still be ok with it. Summer target would switch for a good two-way SG.

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Based on their success record, I would be scared of such statements

(02-04-2024, 03:23 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I would do a Green+Holmes for PJ and a CHA first.

Then use that 1st to get someone like Kuzma.

That makes sense to me.

(02-04-2024, 03:06 PM)Smitty Wrote: The rest of my post goes into my reasoning for everything and one the Mavs would have to plan for in any Bridges trade. Im not the one interested in Bridges. The Mavs are and I think they will go through the same process on how to resign him.

The Hornets are taking on a lot of salary and PHX can offer a decent package for Bridges so you have to pay to play. Giving up the FRP is painful but a Nico special this offseason was getting back second rounders in the process.

The move to clear space to resign Bridges is trading Holmes (expiring) at the draft/start of new year. That’s where the second round pick(s) come into play.

(02-04-2024, 03:26 PM)omahen Wrote: I simply don't see this anywhere close to reality. Why would Charlotte do that? Take a shitty contract in Holmes and pay for the privilege...

Green vs Washington is imho a similar value.

(02-04-2024, 03:26 PM)F Gump Wrote: I didn't follow the idea that Holmes getting traded (for air) in July is part of the process. My bad.

I would think that a better route (and safer, considering the various costs) would be to pursue him in July via SNT, if he's your target. The idea that PHX might get him wouldn't be an issue to that, because they can't re-sign him if they get him.

(02-04-2024, 03:34 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't really value Washington like most of you. I think Green is the better player by a pretty wide margin. You can't do a 1 for 1 swap for them, and the Mavs have to send out more money any ways. It almost has to be Holmes if its just between the CHA+DAL to make sense. 

So that's the case money wise. Value wise, again I think Green>>Washington. Washington isn't bad, but like many others have said here he's not even a top 4 guy on this bad CHA team. He puts up stats but you always have to be wary of guys who put up stats on bad teams.

I watched 5 CHA games to see how PJ performed. He's an okay player that disappears a lot and has defensive lapses that remind me of GWill/CWood. If his shot is falling he is lethal, but that's most guys. I don't think its worth to give up arguably our best defensive guard for PJ.

(02-04-2024, 03:39 PM)omahen Wrote: I know another contract is needed and my hope would be Charlotte eats Holmes deal. Although I am affraid Mavs would need to add to do that. 

I am not really impressed by Washington, but neither I am impressed by Green. Taking big picture into account, it is just a move around the edges that will not erase the need for the third best player, but might make Mavs a little bit better this season. Washington can't be much worse on defense than GW and I think he can do much more offensively than the shitty GW version we see recently.

(02-04-2024, 03:30 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Green + Holmes + 2030 pick swap for PJ makes some sense to me. Adding the pick swap to salary dump Holmes.

(02-04-2024, 03:35 PM)omahen Wrote: You mean Phoenix trading for him would be an issue, not wouldn't? If I understand it correctly, SnT is off the table, if he is traded to another team.

(02-04-2024, 03:45 PM)F Gump Wrote: DAL 2030 is already swapped.

(02-04-2024, 03:14 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: BTW, someone that has directional say in the organization agrees with upgrading the roster now.

(02-04-2024, 03:53 PM)F Gump Wrote: Good catch - it was a brain typo on my part, not a slip of the pen.

But that again reinforces why Bridges would be very unlikely to accept a trade to PHX (or anywhere), as it closes off so many of his routes to a bigger-than-MLE contract in the summer. He went without a salary last season, and this one is at a very reduced number, so it's likely he sees 2024 as his chance to finally get paid (and won't want to impair that).