(02-04-2024, 11:34 AM)mvossman Wrote: What you call waiting I call patience. It’s a trait all of the good FOs have. Too often the alternative is panic moves. That’s how bad orgs stay bad. If the right deal is out there, then make it, but if approach this TDL like we have to make a move then the other side has all the leverage.  that’s when things tend to go wrong

(02-04-2024, 11:47 AM)omahen Wrote: I agree you should have some knowledge or even certainty on who becomes available. But, that is not my job. I can only guess. That is a job that good (or better put successful) FO not just identify but also create. Especially in player empowerement era. 

(02-04-2024, 11:40 AM)Smitty Wrote: This trade allows for a path to resign Bridges.

Mavs - Bridges, Hayward, 2 SRP’s
CHA - THJ, Gwill, Maxi, ‘27 FRP


The Hornets are taking on a lot of salary and PHX can offer a decent package for Bridges so you have to pay to play. Giving up the FRP is painful but a Nico special this offseason was getting back second rounders in the process.

The move to clear space to resign Bridges is trading Holmes (expiring) at the draft/start of new year. That’s where the second round pick(s) come into play.


Luka - Exum - Curry
Irving - Hardy
Hayward - Green
Bridges - DJJ - Omax - Morris
Lively - Powell - Holmes

(02-04-2024, 11:52 AM)omahen Wrote: This move would create less than 20 mil of cap space. What if someone like Detroit moneywhips Bridges with 25+ offer? Way too risky to do it, imho

(02-04-2024, 12:09 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: You are really really stuck on this guy.

If we give up first round picks for a guy who strangled his girlfriend, broke her nose and ribs in front of their kids and then followed that up by throwing billiards balls at her car while their kids were in it, I will never follow this team again.

Also, you realize PHX has NOTHING to offer at this point, right?

(02-04-2024, 11:40 AM)Smitty Wrote: This trade allows for a path to resign Bridges.

Mavs - Bridges, Hayward, 2 SRP’s
CHA - THJ, Gwill, Maxi, ‘27 FRP


The Hornets are taking on a lot of salary and PHX can offer a decent package for Bridges so you have to pay to play. Giving up the FRP is painful but a Nico special this offseason was getting back second rounders in the process.

The move to clear space to resign Bridges is trading Holmes (expiring) at the draft/start of new year. That’s where the second round pick(s) come into play.


Luka - Exum - Curry
Irving - Hardy
Hayward - Green
Bridges - DJJ - Omax - Morris
Lively - Powell - Holmes

(02-04-2024, 12:10 PM)Smitty Wrote: “In those calculations I assumed they keep Curry. If he is waived, they save a bit more, but are still only $12.54M under the cap”

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Using Fgumps’s numbers with Holmes, THJ, Gwill gone and accounting for $1M less in the cap next year plus adding Maxi (11M) outgoing. I think it gets you to 22.54M in cap space. 

A Kyrie for Lauri+Sexton gets another $4M

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Well the Mavs are rumored to be interested in Bridges. This is a Mavs trade thread. On a Mavs fans forum. You can simply ignore the post.

(02-04-2024, 12:17 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Mavs are rumored to be interested in a lot of folks and you continue to post about one.  Just saying.

(02-04-2024, 12:14 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: Bridges broke his girlfriend's nose, broke her wrist and ruptured her eardrum.  He choked her until she was unconscious.  Certainly this isn't someone we want on the Mavericks.

It's pathetic that the NBA and the Charlotte Hornets are allowing that piece of shit to play.  I don't think very highly of Mark Cuban but I hope he is above this.  

I understand he has talent but there are lines that should not be crossed.  If he gets hit by a train, the world will be a better place.

(02-04-2024, 11:52 AM)omahen Wrote: This move would create less than 20 mil of cap space. What if someone like Detroit moneywhips Bridges with 25+ offer? Way too risky to do it, imho

(02-04-2024, 12:14 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: Certainly this isn't someone we want on the Mavericks.

(02-04-2024, 12:21 PM)Smitty Wrote: Well I can keep talking about Kuzma but we’ve beaten that topic worse than others have beaten their significant others.

(02-04-2024, 12:26 PM)youzigizag Wrote: He did all of those things for no reason because he is evil?

Seems like he would be in jail and the Commish would not allow him back if so.

There are two sides to every story...this board is only giving one side and wants to not talk about the other side of things out of convenience.    Some times the other side needs to be checked....its what Israel just did to whomever was poking at them...Israel had enough and checked them.   We dont know what evil things his girlfriend were doing.   He could have been the nicest guy in the world to her and she kept pushing emotional buttons cruelly for no reason as he provided a nice lifestyle for her...he snapped at all the BS instead of walking away...all his fault and she gets no blame.   Sounds like gas-lighting to me.   Im going to punch you in the face, claim I didnt do it and then call you a baby for whining about getting punched in the face.   Sounds like a Psychology trap and they instigator doesnt want to talk about being held accountable.

I want both sides of the story...and want to know who the true instigator was.   If she was evil....maybe getting f'd up grounded her a bit.   But I get it...posters are going to run to the instigators defense and try and claim that an instigator should be allowed to do whatever they want in society as long as they dont get physical.    The instigator should be allowed to emotionally torture every boyfriend she has....its his fault he stayed with her.   

Whats the full story here and who was the instigator?

(02-04-2024, 12:36 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: You have authority that Bridges wil forego Bird rights to accept a trade to Dallas?

(02-04-2024, 12:41 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: I'd be curious how you all stack rank the purported F options along with pros & cons of each. I'm assuming THJ will be outgoing, so someone is going to need to replace his scoring. THJ has also been pretty durable. That matters given how many games Kyrie misses. I'll probably try to look up some advanced analytics on these guys, but I haven't compared them yet, so if anyone wants to do that, be my guest :-) This is all just eye test / gut.

Miles Bridges: Brings physicality, scoring, rebounding, defense. Was the leading scorer and rebounder on CHA two years ago. Has a little Jimmy Butler in him. 36% from three. 6' 7" 225 lbs, 25 years old.

Jerami Grant: A slasher, scorer who gets to the foul line. 40% 3pt shooter on mid volume. Switchable defender with good length. Not a rebounder. 6' 7" 210 lbs, 29 years old.

PJ Washington: Good kid, good teammate, plays the right way. Versatile defender. Low volume shooter. Might not replace THJ's scoring output, shoots 34% from three. 6' 7" 230 lbs, 25 years old.

Andrew Wiggins: Can score, rebound, handle, slash, and defend. Has been a 39% 3pt shooter, but his confidence and shot are off. 6' 7" 200 lbs, 28 years old.

Kyle Kuzma: Confident scorer on poor efficiency. Can defend and handle. Might the best rebounder and playmaker among the options. 6' 10" 220 lbs, 28 years old.

(02-04-2024, 12:40 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: Your thesis is that she may have done something to provoke him beating her repeatedly and choking her until she was unconscious?

"maybe getting f'ed up grounded her a bit"

Your mentality is disturbing.  I hope there are no women in your life.  You might fit in well in prison.

(02-04-2024, 12:50 PM)Smitty Wrote: My preference is PJ Washington. His cost shouldn’t be anywhere near Kuzma’s. The on-court downside is less than that of Wiggins and Kuzma and the Mavs hold on to their future (Luka/Green/Omax/Lively).

I think you’ve done well with your descriptions of each. All of them come with a big asterisk of “cost” to acquire.

In order from best overall acquisition to worst with everything taken into account is:

PJ Washington
Bridges

BIG GAP

Kuzma/Wiggins

I don’t think Grant is a real possibility at the TDL

(02-04-2024, 12:41 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: I'd be curious how you all stack rank the purported F options along with pros & cons of each. I'm assuming THJ will be outgoing, so someone is going to need to replace his scoring. THJ has also been pretty durable. That matters given how many games Kyrie misses. I'll probably try to look up some advanced analytics on these guys, but I haven't compared them yet, so if anyone wants to do that, be my guest :-) This is all just eye test / gut.

Miles Bridges: Brings physicality, scoring, rebounding, defense. Was the leading scorer and rebounder on CHA two years ago. Has a little Jimmy Butler in him. 36% from three. 6' 7" 225 lbs, 25 years old.

Jerami Grant: A slasher, scorer who gets to the foul line. 40% 3pt shooter on mid volume. Switchable defender with good length. Not a rebounder. 6' 7" 210 lbs, 29 years old.

PJ Washington: Good kid, good teammate, plays the right way. Versatile defender. Low volume shooter. Might not replace THJ's scoring output, shoots 34% from three. 6' 7" 230 lbs, 25 years old.

Andrew Wiggins: Can score, rebound, handle, slash, and defend. Has been a 39% 3pt shooter, but his confidence and shot are off. 6' 7" 200 lbs, 28 years old.

Kyle Kuzma: Confident scorer on poor efficiency. Can defend and handle. Might the best rebounder and playmaker among the options. 6' 10" 220 lbs, 28 years old.

(02-04-2024, 01:25 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Did Wiggins get hurt?  Otherwise he did his best Grant Williams impression in an overtime game where the warriors scored 134.  Wiggins played 19 minutes and shot 1-6 and had 2 points.  It was against that stingy Hawks defense though.