(02-02-2024, 10:41 PM)Branduil Wrote: The big problem is the Mavs already have 2 stars who aren't good at defense. If we trade THJ it needs to be for a guy who is better on defense.

(02-02-2024, 01:23 AM)Tyler Wrote: In case people have forgotten, Lively is represented by Rich Paul. If Dallas somehow gets LeBron, there's zero chance that Lively won't be playing with him.

(02-02-2024, 10:39 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Complaints about Kuz's efficiency are there, but he is the number option on a bad team.
If THJ and Kuz would swap places, THJ could chuck his way to 20 a night, but would be one of the worst players in efficiency.

Kuz upgrades the 3rd option on the Mavs in offense, also upgrades from a non-performing GW at PF, and also upgrades the Mavs in both rebounding and size. Not seeing that is just hate.

Note: Most hate Kuz primarily because he is a Blake Griffin level douche. Which I don't disagree.
I rather have Deni, but Kuz isn't as bad as most think.

(02-03-2024, 09:15 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Brad Rowland (@BTRowland)
a lot of good stuff in here from mike, but this is a personal favorite

the hawks are reportedly "seeking two first-round picks and looking to shed future payroll without taking any back to avoid the luxury tax next season in trade talks for Murray"

ah yes, here we are again

(02-03-2024, 09:19 AM)Smitty Wrote: Nets want Murray. They have picks and SD and O’Neal are expirings…

(02-03-2024, 09:19 AM)Smitty Wrote: Nets want Murray. They have picks and SD and O’Neal are expirings…

FWIW, Nets have an 18.8 TPE that expires Tuesday.

(02-03-2024, 10:04 AM)omahen Wrote: MIlwaukee is looking for a wing (SG/SF) defender. The article already proposes GW for Portis straight up, but I guess the author didn't see how "good" GW is defending on perimeter, so I find it unlikely (and I would do it, if it is on the table).

How about this iteration?
Mil: Green, Curry
Dallas: Portis, Beauchamp

Milwaukee gets their wing defender and a bench shooter. They save a bunch of salary this season and stay on similar level next one. Mavs fill the position of need with a combo PF/C. Portis rebounds well and is a decent shooter. Mavs would depend on Exum being healthy going forward. Beauchamp is a bench piece, athletic but raw.

https://theathletic.com/5215735/2024/02/03/bucks-nba-trade-deadline-primer/

(02-03-2024, 09:57 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Wouldn’t be surprised if SD and 2 SRPs is the winning bid for Murray and Atl is trying to get someone to offer more.
I proposed a trade that I think Atl takes and accomplishes more salary savings on Discord. It also fits rumors.

Claxton, SD, ONeale and 2 FRPs for Murray and Hunter

Now, with Hunter in, they have little need for Cam Johnson, so let me add to the trade to make this Mavs centric.

To Nets - Murray, Hunter, GWill, Holmes, SRP from Orl, SRP from Dal
To Orl - THJ
To Atl - Harris, ONeale, SD, FRP from Bkn, FRP from Dal
To Dal - Cap n Cam

Luka/Kyrie/Green/Cam/Cap
Exum/Hardy/DJJ/Maxi/Lively

Go into the offseason with 2 FRPs to get a starting level SF and backup PF.

Luka/Kyrie/acquisition/Cam/Cap
Exum/Hardy/Green/acquisition/Lively

With a 2 FRP level SF that is a contender IMO.

Edit: After seeing smitty’s proposal, looks like Nets don’t need to add Claxton’s salary.

(02-03-2024, 09:59 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: They'd probably want Capela in that deal, not Hunter. Reading Hawks forums they are high on a Jalen Johnson+Hunter at the 3 and 4 next to Trae. Makes sense given their size. 

Capela has appeared to have regressed significantly and Okongwu doesn't really fit in Snyder's scheme. Hawks think they can use Dejounte Murray for a KAT trade, but I'm not sure that is on the table at the deadline.

My revised version:


I think this deal makes more sense where Dallas is used as the team to absorb Capela and are paid DFS to do so. It's not easy finding a team to eat 20 mil and have need for a center. Mavs provide 2 2nds, to the Hawks for Murray payment as well. Nets send their PHX first in 2025 to the Hawks and also throw in Cam Thomas as the key player the Hawks can sell their fans on. Dinwiddie is an expiring and Holmes to provide backup minutes behind Okongwu who can finally start.


Mavs send THJ to the Nets (although I can see why Grant Williams would be included instead) as the Cam Thomas chucker replacement. Only hangup is that this pushes the Mavs 1.1 mil over the 165 tax line. Although sending Hardy could alleviate that pretty easily.

Luka/Exum/Curry
Kyrie/Green/Hardy
DFS/DJJ
GWill/Maxi/OMax
Lively/Capela/Powell

Is a solid enough rotation. In the summer we can then put together a package around Capela's expiring and Grant Williams +3 picks to find that solid PF we are desperately looking for and sign Drummond to be the backup center.

(02-03-2024, 10:13 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I wish I could smack the like button more than once because of Bobby Portis. I love Bobby Portis and he'd fit incredibly well here at the 4. Plus he gives us that "don't f with us" energy. 

But to do this deal, you're banking on Beauchamp being something. Green does play a pretty significant role here on defense and we need that defense pretty badly. Further it puts us into the tax this year due to Green only counting 4 mil against our cap. 

If MIL had a 1st to trade I'd be more interested but they don't. So unfortunately my Portis dream will have to wait.

(02-03-2024, 10:18 AM)Winter Wrote: I can't believe Milwaukee gives up Porter for Green. Portis covers every base for Dallas. I'd do that in a heartbeat, but there's a lot of love for Portis in that town. I think they'd need a pick or another player.

(02-03-2024, 10:15 AM)Smitty Wrote: That’s a lot more complicated than mine but you’re just combining what could be separate trades. If I read it correctly the Mavs part is THJ, Gwill, Holmes, FRP, SRP for Cam and Cap. Losing no young guys and getting a starting 4 and backup 5.

Of course I’m in. Is Cam really going to get traded though? If I’m the Nets I think I want to keep him.

(02-03-2024, 11:36 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Die-Hard Chicago Bulls Fans (@DieHardCBfans)
The Bulls are focused on acquiring Bojan Bogdanović with young assets, per @TheAthletic

The trade talks are serious, per @ZachLowe_NBA

Potential Trade:

The #Bulls Trade: Zach LaVine & PWill

The #Pistons Trade: Bogdanovic, Jaden Ivey, Ausar Thompson, Joe Harris (expiring)