(05-19-2023, 11:36 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Scenario: Harden leaves Phi for Hou. Kyrie says Morey wants to pay him the full max they can give and he would like for us to negotiate a deal that sends him there. Do you do:

Kyrie SnT for Harris and Maxey?

Is that too much, too little or just right?

(05-19-2023, 11:37 AM)omahen Wrote: I don't see Philly trading Maxey for anything. He is certainly valued much more than Kyrie, imho

(05-19-2023, 08:39 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Dallas has two must-starts in Luka and Irving.  If those are your starters, I'd argue Hardy can't start. 

(05-19-2023, 11:42 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Morey has always liked stars and valued them more than anything. Maxey isn’t a star.

(05-19-2023, 10:29 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Here is the thing about European professional athletes. They have a different mindset than Americans. They don´t care about the GM/sporting director position. They want to show up to work and have a good team. If they don´t, they leave. But they are not going to make demands. So the Mavs are under less pressure than they always pretend to be.
Luka doesn´t care whether you sign this guy or that guy. All he cares about is that he is surrounded by good players within the next 12 months. There is no need to rush into dumb deals this summer. The arguments to wait at least until the TDL are so many.

1. Don´t act desperate.
2. Don´t be the first team to define the new CBA.
3. Don´t commit 100% to the Irving experience by getting another veteran immediately. If Doncic/Kyrie does not work, then giving up the 10th pick for Capela means you are completely screwed.
4. In six months Bertans/THJ/McGee are closer to expiring and so are some desirable players. Reduced costs.
5. In-season trades seem more likely due to more difficult S&T rules.

Vucevic for Wood. I think the players and teams will be interested. The players market will be cold. Teams cap room will be non-existent. All parties can talk themselves into this one. Sign Paul Reed. Draft #10. Find another defensive guard for the minimum Schröeder, DSJ, Milton or Carter in free agency. Add two undrafted rookie wings and then you play the waiting game until the TDL. You can still throw 2027 unprotected at the Hawks for Capela. Maybe Vucevic plus Reed/Kleber/Hendricks works like a charm and you can throw it at an elite wing defender instead.

(05-19-2023, 11:46 AM)omahen Wrote: Morey is not stupid. You can't "exchange" Harden, Harris and Maxey for Irving and think you will remain competitive. What can Mavs do, if Kyrie wants to go to Philly? All Philly needs to do is send Harris to a third team and they have the cap space to sign Irving. It doesn't cost a Maxey type of player to dump expiring decent player like Harris.

(05-19-2023, 11:42 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: So, my question is it possible to eventually (maybe not next year) to have a closing lineup of Luka, Kyrie and Hardy in the game?  

(05-19-2023, 11:50 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: And the cost of dumping that much salary to a team would be Maxey.

(05-18-2023, 04:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Seeing Rui play in LA, gets me wondering if there are a few more Wizards who could do well in a better environment.  Avdija especially.  He has not really found his legs in the NBA yet but is still young, has good size and plays defense pretty well.  I just have trouble finding a fit right now.  But I could see something at the deadline if Washington has another lost season.  Avdija, Gafford and Wright/Morris for guys like Bullock, Bertans and a future first.  Not sure if there is enough there for Washington to give up those guys for just a distant first plus two near expirings.  That type of trade would be similar to the Lakers deadline deal though.

(05-19-2023, 12:00 PM)omahen Wrote: I think cost of dumping Harris is a lottery protected FRP at most. So if there is absolutely no way for Philly to make the dump with assets they have (they don't have a FRP to trade), they trade Maxey for a bunch of assets, keep most of them and use the rest to dump Harris.

(05-19-2023, 12:15 PM)F Gump Wrote: As I read through these various ideas, I find myself incredibly pessimistic over all of it. The thing that's is most concerning is that year after year, Cuban has eroded what little talent they had AND has frittered away assets, so that now the cupboard is almost completely bare of ways to build around Luka and Kyrie.

This is not new. Cuban's choices since the title, with no clue as to how to amass assets and gather talent, despite always having a Hall of Fame talent on the roster to attract players, have been one self-destructive choice after another. Just no clue.

Destroying a title team because Cuban was supposedly super smart about how to use the 2011 CBA. Bypassing a generational 2-way player because Cuban had a better roster building idea. His highlights were signing a damaged-goods Parsons to a giant contract, signing a damaged-goods Matthews to a giant contract, signing a decent F Barnes to a giant contract, and signing a washed-and-lazy Jordan to a giant contract.

Trading FOR Porzingis (with the necessary contract that entailed, and loss of draft capital in MANY ways) was an asset killer. There's still more payment due for that move.

And then bringing in a new untrained GM (to make wise decisions) who knows nothing about player evaluation and had no experience in ANY of the GM skills.

Signing THJ to a giant contract.
Signing Bullock, who was good for a year, then a liability thereafter.
Trading AWAY Porzingis (taking bad contracts and spending another pick, for a unicorn) was further drain on assets. Cuban paid a fortune in assets to get him, and then paid again to get rid of him. That's awful.
The asset drain from the Brunson fiasco was huge.
The Wood decision was another one, frittering away opportunity and a pick.
The McGee decision took a roster spot and payroll, and also cost an opportunity to sign someone who would be a plus.

There's basically nothing to work with now. Just a pile of mediocre players with bad contracts.

They need a genius in roster building. Instead they have Cuban running the ship (the blind leading the blind, as it's said), whose choices have been one disaster after another. He has no clue. So I can't see how there's a path to a good team ahead.