(01-25-2024, 12:49 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: There is literally no trade that will fix a lack of mental fortitude. Comes from top down. Luka and Kidd. Kidd has to go. Luka has to grow up. We've said the same shit year after for him. Year 3 its understandable. Its year 6 and Luka still acts like a pussy ass whiny bitch
If I was Kidd, Luka doesn't get the start next game. As soon as he turns to a ref he gets benched for 2 minutes. Sack the game I don't give a shit. Its time to put the foot down and hammer this habit out of Luka.

(01-25-2024, 02:47 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: SH goes nuclear while I got my post deleted. LOL.

(01-25-2024, 04:12 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Full transparency, no one deleted any post of yours!

I can post the mod logs if you want. 


(And yes I went a little nuclear. What Jason Kidd does to a mfer)

(01-25-2024, 07:11 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: For most of you who wouldn't trade a first for a combined Deni and Gafford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ugnoRm9HN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6jIsPtKago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NooqcpXLB74

You're not trading for Deni for who he is -- it's who he would become.
I'm betting on him to be better than Jerami Grant, Tobias, or Kuzma at some point.

Now I don't know if he is available (he shouldn't be), but if he is ---- you put him on the Mavs he'd automatically be top 3 in the totem pole.

(01-25-2024, 07:24 AM)omahen Wrote: Vast majority of people (both fans on this board as well as media) were certain Grant Williams will be great on this team

Personally, I would like Mavs acting like a contender. Always aiming for the best. Look at Lakers, Miami and so on. Vastly inferior assets yet always in play for serious players.

(01-25-2024, 07:24 AM)omahen Wrote: Vast majority of people (both fans on this board as well as media) were certain Grant Williams will be great on this team

Personally, I would like Mavs acting like a contender. Always aiming for the best. Look at Lakers, Miami and so on. Vastly inferior assets yet always in play for serious players.

(01-25-2024, 08:06 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I was leading the charge for Williams this offseason.  I thought he would be perfect here.   I have not been a fan of the Grant Williams experience so far.   Hot/cold streaks come and go.  It is all the other stuff that has greatly disappointed me.

(01-25-2024, 07:11 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: For most of you who wouldn't trade a first for a combined Deni and Gafford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ugnoRm9HN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6jIsPtKago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NooqcpXLB74

You're not trading for Deni for who he is -- it's who he would become.
I'm betting on him to be better than Jerami Grant, Tobias, or Kuzma at some point.

Now I don't know if he is available (he shouldn't be), but if he is ---- you put him on the Mavs he'd automatically be top 3 in the totem pole.

(01-25-2024, 02:49 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral
The Pistons and Bulls have discussed a trade centered around Zach LaVine, per
@JLEdwardsIII


The Bulls would like a return of Bojan Bogdanović and one of Cade Cunningham/Ausar Thompson/Jaden Ivey/Jalen Duren

(01-25-2024, 07:24 AM)omahen Wrote: Vast majority of people (both fans on this board as well as media) were certain Grant Williams will be great on this team

Personally, I would like Mavs acting like a contender. Always aiming for the best. Look at Lakers, Miami and so on. Vastly inferior assets yet always in play for serious players.

(01-25-2024, 07:11 AM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: For most of you who wouldn't trade a first for a combined Deni and Gafford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ugnoRm9HN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6jIsPtKago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NooqcpXLB74

You're not trading for Deni for who he is -- it's who he would become.
I'm betting on him to be better than Jerami Grant, Tobias, or Kuzma at some point.

Now I don't know if he is available (he shouldn't be), but if he is ---- you put him on the Mavs he'd automatically be top 3 in the totem pole.

(01-25-2024, 09:53 PM)hakeemfaan Wrote: To me the Lakers,  Clips or Miami are not fair comparisons to the Mavs  because players also push their agents to go there. 

At the same time, as many have said, the Mavs FO can always be criticized for believing like they operate out of LA or Miami or believe they are some special franchise instead of digging deep, valuing picks, scouting better, looking for bargains,…etc. 

Since this above approach has stayed constant even after FO has changed regimes, we all know who is behind this lazy, delusional approach to team building.  Sadly that person managed to regain basketball control ( at least for now) even after selling the team.  As long as he is there, nothing will change.

(01-25-2024, 03:12 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Perfect fate for who is perhaps the ultimate empty stats guy.

(01-26-2024, 12:52 AM)omahen Wrote: More thoughts about Milwaukee. They were facing a situation when Giannis deal was starting to expire and half of league (Mavs included) was preparing for a situation if Giannis doesn't resign. They had their Luka in Giannis, they had their Irving in Middleton and their Lively in Lopez. They didn't go "lets trade for "an Avdija" and hope he will work". They went after perhaps best two way player at the time in JRue. They repeated the task last summer with trade for Lillard.

There are of course differences between Milwaukee and Mavs. They were one of the best teams in the league even before JRue trade with prime Bledsoe and Brogdon (Brogdon was SnT a season before Milwaukee went after JRue). I think they didn't make their versions of KP and Brunson mistakes, although drafting Jabari Parker was a costly mistake. They did lose Brogdon in FA but at least he didn't walk for nothing. They did have a 4th starter level player in Bledsoe.

Mavs have one more season to come to a situation where Milwaukee was before the JRue trade. Irving clock is really not working for them to be very patient.