(01-16-2024, 04:44 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: If you are not convinced that you can beat out Dwight Powell or Richaun Holmes for minutes, I don´t want you here. I somehow doubt that´s the reason Goga, Hartenstein, Wagner and company are not here right now. It´s the Mavs never made the proper moves. The minutes argument is completely crazy. Why are we even discussing C upgrades, when apparently our rotation is so strong that only Embiid and Jokic would even consider signing here in FA. 

(01-16-2024, 06:01 PM)Winter Wrote: Given what Cuban has said - someone over 6'8" who can dribble and rebound 

I hate to lose THjs firepower, but that's probably the deal if the player is to have value.

• A PF with size and rebounding.
  
• A THJ replacement who can pull-up from 3 the way THJ can, but in a bigger body and can guard bigger players THJ can't.
  
• 3 dynamic scorers who can score at 3 levels.
  
• 3 playmakers (4 if Exum is on the floor with them).
  
• Works well with any of Lively, Maxi, Powell, GW paired with him.
  

(01-16-2024, 08:28 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1747429433865068649?s=46&t=iwQP5yZoJF3Ulzfb9MH7Cg

(01-16-2024, 08:20 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Kuzma can dribble better than most wings and bigs who are at least 6'9".
Kuzma averages 6 rebounds per game, better than Jerami Grant, DFS, Patrick Williams, Olynyk
Kuzma is a more dynamic scorer than THJ, Mavs wouldn't miss THJ's offense with Kuzma.

Let's break it down Kuzma allows the Mavs to have:

• A PF with size and rebounding.
  
• A THJ replacement who can pull-up from 3 the way THJ can, but in a bigger body and can guard bigger players THJ can't.
  
• 3 dynamic scorers who can score at 3 levels.
  
• 3 playmakers (4 if Exum is on the floor with them).
  
• Works well with any of Lively, Maxi, Powell, GW paired with him.
  

(01-16-2024, 06:01 PM)Winter Wrote: Given what Cuban has said - someone over 6'8" who can dribble and rebound - we may very well be talking about a big man who can be played at C or PF. That's probably not Gafford since I don't see him as an optimal PF. He has played that position before, but that's a weird fit.

I see someone more like Isaiah Stewart or Wendall Carter as being better targets. Both of those players have been in the rumor mill with Dallas interest. They may be too expensive at present, but Dan laid out a couple of scenarios for WC in an earlier thread. PJ Washington stands about 6'7" and is not a premium rebounder - so I'm guessing that one is out.

I hate to lose THjs firepower, but that's probably the deal if the player is to have value.

(01-16-2024, 08:20 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Kuzma can dribble better than most wings and bigs who are at least 6'9".
Kuzma averages 6 rebounds per game, better than Jerami Grant, DFS, Patrick Williams, Olynyk
Kuzma is a more dynamic scorer than THJ, Mavs wouldn't miss THJ's offense with Kuzma.

Let's break it down Kuzma allows the Mavs to have:

• A PF with size and rebounding.
  
• A THJ replacement who can pull-up from 3 the way THJ can, but in a bigger body and can guard bigger players THJ can't.
  
• 3 dynamic scorers who can score at 3 levels.
  
• 3 playmakers (4 if Exum is on the floor with them).
  
• Works well with any of Lively, Maxi, Powell, GW paired with him.
  

(01-16-2024, 10:14 PM)mvossman Wrote: Kuzma is as bad (or worse) defensively as Timmy.
Kuzma takes same number of 3s as Timmy, but significantly worse percentage (and folks get annoyed with Timmy trigger)
Kuzma as a "playmaker" gets 4-5 assets per 36 but also 3 turnovers for a worse than 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio.

The advanced stats say they are roughly same value on the court (they actually like Timmy a little better).  But because Kuzma puts up a bunch of counting stats on a crappy team, he is going to cost significantly more than Timmy.  It would be worth a discussion if it were an equal swap, but it wont be.

(01-16-2024, 10:43 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Kuzma is as bad (or worse) defensively as Timmy. - LOL NO, he did good in one of the play-offs he has been into, THJ doesn't have any defensive stretch like that, No comparison. And the fact that he is taller than THJ, he can defend better and doesn't have to contribute to the undersized lineups THJ has to pla into.

Kuzma takes same number of 3s as Timmy, but significantly worse percentage  - Kuzma can score in variety of ways better than THJ. And he is doing it as the main option in offense, which of course gathers more defensive attention. You want 3s, yes go for THJ, you want charges, go for THJ, everything else -- Nah I'd take Kuz.

Kuzma as a playmaker  - Kuzma can dish out when he needs to while being the top dude on his team. On the Mavs Kuzma doesn't need to play-make, but the ability is a welcome one rather than none at all.  Someone who can pass at the 4 spot is not taking away from someone who can pass from the 2 or 3 spot. THJ would most likely overlap with Exum, who btw is a superior player. Sure take THJ and hope he plays the 4. Kuz can play with the 3 of Luka-Ky and Exum.

(01-16-2024, 06:41 PM)omahen Wrote: Some players who fit that description include (in no particular order): the Dallas Mavericks’ Tim Hardaway Jr.

I would be for this trade, if Mavs can make it a three team deal with Fournier expiring and picks going for a big wing.

https://theathletic.com/5205884/2024/01/16/knicks-trade-deadline-facilitator-quentin-grimes/

(01-17-2024, 06:55 AM)omahen Wrote: Holmes for Tate and Landale, perhaps add a second rounder or two. Tate is not big, but he plays stronger. Mavs get a wing which you can never have too many and flexibility for next season. If there is nothing better around to use Holmes contract, this would be a move it could make a lot of sense imho.

https://theathletic.com/5179533/2024/01/17/victor-wembanyama-spurs-grizzlies-rocket

(01-16-2024, 10:00 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Is OMax bigger than 6’8”? 

And, does he dribble okay?