(01-12-2024, 04:21 PM)F Gump Wrote: No.

The contract is a deal-killer for me because imo the impact of $25M/year of bad contract (that's what he is, right now) will prevent the Mavs from doing the needed roster building to improve this team. There's not really any way to erase that unless you get players making nothing but worth $25M. A couple of scrub picks doesn't change that, and it will be years before those picks become valued players, most likely.

But there's also the issue that the Mavs need to add BETTER players to their mix. Right now, is Wiggins (with his level of play) really someone you'd want to give minutes to? I don't see anything in what he's doing that would be a plus.

And I'm not sold on the idea that it will change. Part of my issue is that when I look back through his history, not sure he's worth this contract EVER. He had one "good" year in a contract year, and even then the numbers seem to indicate he was just a so-so player in the middle of some high level talent, filling a hole and being valued because of it.

(01-12-2024, 03:44 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't think I'm quite there with your evaluation of Wiggins relative cost if his game were to bounce back. I think he'd easily be worth his contract. The question is the likelihood and we've seen years and years of Wiggins collecting a paycheck and putting up empty stats.

So I agree, I'm totally out on Wiggins and his deal.

I suppose a better question is, what would it take from GSW (or maybe a 3rd team?) for you to accept Wiggins contract? What if he came with 2 firsts?

(01-12-2024, 05:30 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: The underrated pro move here is THJ to NO for Nance Jr and Lewis Jr.

https://thebirdwrites.com/larry-nance-jr-brings-everything-to-pelicans/

https://thebirdwrites.com/making-a-difference-how-larry-nance-jr-elevates-the-pelicans-second-unit/

https://thebirdwrites.com/is-kira-lewis-jr-ready-to-take-flight-for-the-pelicans/

EDIT: I'll add that it will never happen because NO wants to get under the tax and they need to shed $3 mil+ but something similar that gets the Pels a 6th man type could have legs.

Hardy + Kleber get it done

(01-12-2024, 04:53 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery
The Nets are open to moving Dorian Finney-Smith ahead of the trade deadline, per
@MikeAScotto
(https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-trade-deadline-preview-knicks-lakers-warriors-nets-rockets-raptors-hawks-pistons/).

Brooklyn is targeting the equivalent of two first-round picks in exchange for Finney-Smith.

(01-12-2024, 06:11 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Not this two FRPs shit again. Who do they think they are, Ainge? Ujiri? PCP is a hell of a drug.

(01-12-2024, 12:33 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: He can walk in the summertime and the Raps have to get something for him in return. I doubt the return is going to be prohibitive for the Mavs at all, and I would assume Ujiri isn't stupid enough to shut down conversations with his most likely trade partner by bringing up Lively.

(01-12-2024, 07:31 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @esidery

Pascal Siakam trade update via @wojespn:

- Siakam will have a lot of say on where he goes due to his expiring contract.

- Raptors and Siakam are “nowhere close” on an extension.

- Woj mentions the Pacers as a legitimate threat to sign Siakam to a max contract this offseason.

- Toronto wants Bennedict Mathurin or Jarace Walker in a trade with Indiana, but they’re holding firm on neither one being included because of their upcoming cap space flexibility.

- Warriors are interested in Siakam, but it’s a “difficult pathway” to make it happen due to their long-term payroll ramifications.

(01-12-2024, 08:25 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I forcefully but respectfully disagree.  There are a lot of teams who would like to have Siakam.  He's the only top-40 player in the NBA who's clearly available at this time.  Teams like the Warriors, Hawks, Pacers and Nets can all easily beat our offer.  Masai would bring up Lively then hang up the phone when we said no.  

We might have a chance this summer if Siakam makes it to free agency and determines he wants to be a Maverick.  We'd have some leverage then.   Currently, Toronto has no incentive to accept our best offer which is multiple bad contracts and a 2027 1st.

(01-12-2024, 06:43 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Written like someone who didn't love DFS enough when he was here. I would gladly send 100 late first for him. My only regret is that the Mavs don't possess enough late 1sts to set a record for most late 1sts ever given for a player.

(01-12-2024, 05:51 PM)omahen Wrote: Nance has a terrible season and Lewis is on his way out of the league. If Mavs lost all hope on Maxi I could see sense in it, as Nance expiring will have more value next season, but I would have a hard time giving up on Hardy potential.