(01-12-2024, 08:03 AM)JamesConway912 Wrote: Not sure if Siakam is a good enough offball scorer but it’s hard to not get excited about the idea of him playing the nr 3 guy role here given he’s a multiple allstar caliber with championship experience playing a position of need.

Finding a trade package for him would be a lot easier if Green, Grant and Hardy had played better seasons so far though.

I think he’s more of a SnT target next summer than an option at the deadline.

(01-12-2024, 12:24 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: As we think through all of these PF targets, I think we are overlooking one that makes a ton of sense...mainly because we don't think of him as a PF.  But, WCJr. played a good bit of PF last season.  Four of his five most used lineups had him at PF and he dominated his direct opponent.  The team's D was fantastic when he was in last season and horrible when he wasn't (Kind of like Lively for us this season).  He's a strong defensive rebounder.  He's an excellent passer (will be yet another player who excels in the short roll when Luka is doubled) and he's hitting his 3's (and the shot looks really good).  He's got a 7' 4" wingspan and good footspeed to execute multiple types of defensive schemes at the 4 or the 5.

So, what happened and why does Stein say he's on the block?  Mainly injuries and the emergence of Goga.  This season WCJ started the first 5 games and then missed the next 20 with a broken finger.  He started the next five, missed a game, came off the bench a few and has missed the last several games with knee tendinitis.  He misses substantial games each season with injuries, so that's a thing.  But, when he's in, he fits Nico's description of Force and Rebounding very well and I think could be a real difference maker in the playoffs (if healthy).  He's on a declining contract and if THJ was the outgoing, would represent $4mm of savings off of next year's number (which helps with DJJ).  We talk about a younger, better, healthier Maxi.  This is him (well, two out of three).

(01-12-2024, 10:56 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I mentioned a couple days ago THJ for WCJ seems like a decent match.

(01-12-2024, 08:03 AM)JamesConway912 Wrote: Not sure if Siakam is a good enough offball scorer but it’s hard to not get excited about the idea of him playing the nr 3 guy role here given he’s a multiple allstar caliber with championship experience playing a position of need.

Finding a trade package for him would be a lot easier if Green, Grant and Hardy had played better seasons so far though.

I think he’s more of a SnT target next summer than an option at the deadline.

(01-12-2024, 12:23 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: It's very easy for me not to get excited about Pascal Siakam as I think he's a good player but a poor fit on this roster.

Our discussions about Siakam are irrelevant though as we have very little to offer in trades.  We have only one available 1st-round pick and not a single large or even mid-size expiring contract.  I think it would be impossible for us to obtain Siakam without Lively included and I would much rather have Lively than Siakam.

(01-12-2024, 01:48 PM)The Jom Wrote: Love Pascal’s fit here! Absolutely love it! But a max salary this summer? Yikes.

(01-12-2024, 04:28 AM)omahen Wrote: Wiggins to Indy could make sense. It would ruin their cap space plans for summer. However, if he can be at least approximately what he has been at his best, he makes them better. And they will get an asset for eating his contract.

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1745562822258352512

(01-12-2024, 02:17 PM)F Gump Wrote: The Warriors are in the market for an offensive minded 7 footer, per @timkawakami . "There has been some talk about maybe just go get a 7-footer who can score."

Is this meaningful? Or just a random wish list item? It's not as if you can go grab whoever you want, on a whim.

(01-12-2024, 02:25 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Is this them coding that they want Maxi in any Wiggins deal?


Ugh I'm terrified of Wiggins and his seemingly disinterest in basketball. Feel like that would be season killer.

(01-12-2024, 02:25 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Is this them coding that they want Maxi in any Wiggins deal?


Ugh I'm terrified of Wiggins and his seemingly disinterest in basketball. Feel like that would be season killer.

(01-12-2024, 02:25 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Is this them coding that they want Maxi in any Wiggins deal?

Ugh I'm terrified of Wiggins and his seemingly disinterest in basketball. Feel like that would be season killer.

(01-12-2024, 03:10 PM)F Gump Wrote: I'm not a fan at all of getting Wiggins. He isn't good at anything anymore (lousy D, meh rebounder, bad scoring pcts, bad defense) and his contract is sizable. His PER is below 9, and his WS is a negative (ie, he makes your team worse to play him). It feels like he stopped caring, once he got his new contract.

If his game rebounds, I don't think you'd get a player worth committing $109M for 4 years. He's not even an MLE-level value now, and it's really questionable you can turn him into an MLE value. Given the $109M due and the hard cap world now, I'd pass, and for me it's not even borderline.

(01-12-2024, 03:10 PM)F Gump Wrote: I'm not a fan at all of getting Wiggins. He isn't good at anything anymore (lousy D, meh rebounder, bad scoring pcts, bad defense) and his contract is sizable. His PER is below 9, and his WS is a negative (ie, he makes your team worse to play him). It feels like he stopped caring, once he got his new contract.

If his game rebounds, I don't think you'd get a player worth committing $109M for 4 years. He's not even an MLE-level value now, and it's really questionable you can turn him into an MLE value. Given the $109M due and the hard cap world now, I'd pass, and for me it's not even borderline.

(01-12-2024, 03:44 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't think I'm quite there with your evaluation of Wiggins relative cost if his game were to bounce back. I think he'd easily be worth his contract. The question is the likelihood and we've seen years and years of Wiggins collecting a paycheck and putting up empty stats.

So I agree, I'm totally out on Wiggins and his deal.

I suppose a better question is, what would it take from GSW (or maybe a 3rd team?) for you to accept Wiggins contract? What if he came with 2 firsts?