(05-13-2023, 04:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Moving on from THJ and Maxi leaves the bench pretty thin. 

(05-13-2023, 04:17 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Seems like it hinges on: 

1. His willingness to accept a sub-MLE contract, and
2. His willingness to accept a bench role with limited minutes

He might not have any choice on the contract, if there aren't any other higher offers.

On the role... perhaps he's really stuck on either starting or starters' minutes.  So would he take less money to achieve that?  $5m instead of $7m?  Or $8m instead of $11?

Some NBA players seem to have an ego that attaches tremendous importance to "starting".  Others care a lot about total minutes, or perhaps ending games.  Some just want the team to win, and don't seem to care how they're utilized.

Not sure how Wood sees himself here.

(05-13-2023, 04:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I can't believe I'm going to admit to this, but a similar thought actually crossed my mind.  Moving on from THJ and Maxi leaves the bench pretty thin.  I started putting together a top 9/10.  Starters were Ayton/Luka/Green/Bullock/Kyrie.  That leaves Hardy, presumably a resigned Powell and.....

Pretty quick you get to the McGee/Morris/Bertans/Holiday types (maybe this is why Morris is so confident of his return).  I don't see Wood starting (heck, I don't see him returning at all), but his ability to fill a pretty gaping hole did cross my mind.  Of course, he'd have to accept the role I thought he was good for all along (bigger version of Lou Williams).  There is definitely a hole to be filled if Maxi and THJ move on and Wood would probably be better than what you get with the TP MLE.

(05-13-2023, 05:13 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: That's insanity, the sub-MLE part.

(05-13-2023, 05:32 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Not sure. Looking at deadline rumors no one showed interest in a trade. Some teams won´t have the full MLE. Rebuilding teams have no reason to go after a guy in his late 20s. He might be in for a rude awakening.

(05-13-2023, 06:03 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Yes, because all trade rumors are real.  The only people who believe that shit are fans.

I place Wood at Nurkic money.

(05-13-2023, 06:48 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Magic, Pacers, Rockets, Pistons, Jazz, Spurs and OKC are the only teams that can even offer Nurkic money. Maybe the Hornets if they let Washington and Bridges walk. Lakers if they give up their entire depth (not going to happen).

Fans aren't creating the salary cap. Is any of the listed teams a likely destination? Are other teams willing to make major roster changes to create space for Wood or give up value in a sign&trade?
Personally I don't see it but I guess it only takes one team.

(05-13-2023, 03:39 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Ayton + five second round picks for Kyrie is still the easiest way out of this mess. I´m sure Phoenix does it. 

(05-13-2023, 05:29 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote:  
Could you scheme enough defense to make a Luka, Kyrie, Green, Wood, Ayton lineup work?
 

(05-14-2023, 08:01 AM)Luka77 Wrote:  
If PHX insists on draft capital and the Mavs have no other choices to find a starting center I give up the '27 first top 20 protected at best.  If they require a pick in this draft I may consider a trade down considering who is available and give the lower first (Utah 16/28 for 10).

Ayton is NOT worth number 10 in this year's draft. I know the Mavs want to do Duffy a favor and get his client elsewhere but not at the cost of overall team building.

(05-14-2023, 08:38 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: We can't protect 2027 in any way with 2029 already out the door.

(05-14-2023, 07:29 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: I don't think Phoenix has any interest in Kyrie.  They have the same problem we do.  Need good role players around their two stars.

(05-14-2023, 08:38 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: That difference is health.

(05-14-2023, 08:38 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: We can't protect 2027 in any way with 2029 already out the door.

"Worth" and "market" are two different things.  Stein gave us his view of what the market for Ayton might be.  Who knows if Phoenix is trying to create a competitive marketplace by spreading rumors about every center-starved team in the league or if there are absolutely no takers for Ayton at that money.  I suspect the market will be higher than what any of us think his worth should be.  I do see a difference between Ayton and KP.  That difference is health.

(05-14-2023, 09:03 AM)Luka77 Wrote: Where those Steins thoughts on the market or what the actual market is?  Because if that is the market I move on and wish Ayton the best of luck on his new team.  On a side note no team in the lottery is trading for Ayton.

Moreover, when considering Zingis and Ayton are we talking about availability or health? During the time period that Zingis was with the Mavs he averaged approximately 50 games played during that period Ayton averaged 54.  Is that difference worth or market value a lottery pick?  I think not.

(05-14-2023, 09:15 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I don’t think ignoring KP’s injury history does anything for this argument.

(05-14-2023, 09:17 AM)Luka77 Wrote: So you can ignore Aytons PED history? If the Mavs offer 10 in the lottery they would be bidding against themselves.

Also like I said Ayton trade value should be similar to Zingis.  Ayton should draw slightly more but not the difference of a lottery pick.