(01-09-2024, 04:53 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Edit:  And now Jake Fisher is reporting that Dallas is actively talking with several teams and is shopping THJ/Holmes.

(01-09-2024, 05:51 PM)omahen Wrote: Not sure what exactly he said, but this aggregate says they are one of four teams in run for Siakam

All Things Mavs on X: "Dallas has emerged as one of the western conference contenders that is continuously on the phone trying to make a move, per @JakeLFischer. They are shopping Richaun Holmes & Tim Hardaway Jr." / X (twitter.com)

I would not understand what shopping Holmes would mean. Really confused by wording. Mavs are not stupid and they know Holmes has zero value around the league. No one will take that contract unless you take back even worse contract or you attach assets to it. So if you want a serious player, what you really shop is assets, not Holmes. Unless you are just pretending to be shopping

(01-09-2024, 06:02 PM)omahen Wrote: At the risk of causing a lot of ire here

The only real asset Mavs have besides the 2027 pick is Lively. Would you consider a deal of contracts+2027+Lively for Siakam and Poeltl?

(01-09-2024, 06:02 PM)omahen Wrote: At the risk of causing a lot of ire here

The only real asset Mavs have besides the 2027 pick is Lively. Would you consider a deal of contracts+2027+Lively for Siakam and Poeltl?

(01-09-2024, 06:03 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Judging by the wording, and if we take it literally, they seem to be shopping THJ/Holmes the same way they shopped THJ/McGee over the summer. If the main motivation is to make room for Hardy, as it seemed to be this summer, then we can probably assume the youngsters will not be included, and that the result will be either a small deal or none at all.

That package will be valuable in a year, when both are expiring.

(01-09-2024, 06:17 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: The Detroit thing for Siakam makes no sense.  They need to take the keys away from that GM if that is the case.

But trade gurus, any way to work up a trade where Detroit gets Hardaway (veteran, shooter, adult in the room).    Toronto gets Isiah Stewart.  Dallas gets Siakam.  More would have to be involved.  Like Dallas first and a young player.  So Toronto winds up with 22 year old Stewart, Dallas first and what Dallas young player (plus salary).  Any way to make a three team work?  Still feels light for Siakam but if he is not going to extend, that may diminish his market.    Toronto is an odd team to try to figure out though.

(01-09-2024, 06:02 PM)omahen Wrote: At the risk of causing a lot of ire here

The only real asset Mavs have besides the 2027 pick is Lively. Would you consider a deal of contracts+2027+Lively for Siakam and Poeltl?

(01-09-2024, 06:55 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Holmes/THJ is a match for Gordon Hayward

(01-09-2024, 06:16 PM)omahen Wrote: It could also be connected to the Siakam rumor. Perhaps Mavs and Toronto can make a deal in principle related to assets used, but Toronto is urging Dallas to find better contracts than THJ/Holmes elsewhere. That is why Dallas could be looking what they could get wih minor assets attached.

(01-09-2024, 08:02 PM)The Jom Wrote: THJ + Holmes is a match for John Collins, both salarywise and in on-court ability. Tim is the better player. Collins the better fit in Big D. Mavs save about 5 million over each of the next 2 years. Utah saves it all back 3 times over, long-term, due to the shorter contracts. The extra space maybe lets us keep DJJ to boot?

(01-09-2024, 08:02 PM)The Jom Wrote: THJ + Holmes is a match for John Collins, both salarywise and in on-court ability. Tim is the better player. Collins the better fit in Big D. Mavs save about 5 million over each of the next 2 years. Utah saves it all back 3 times over, long-term, due to the shorter contracts. The extra space maybe lets us keep DJJ to boot?