(05-13-2023, 01:56 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I do remember that. 

It's funny because I'm sorta with you Dougie that Wood should've been given a bigger chance when he returned from injury. I'm just not convinced that Wood was a difference maker and playing him more would've resulted in more wins. 

I just think, like many others here, that we had to do something different to just try. Kidd wasn't willing to do it (and I can see why he didn't want to). Though, if the ship is sinking and the coach doesn't at least try some hail mary shit to get some water out of the boat, is that better than just accepting the outcome and letting the team continue the status quo?

ANY WHO moving on...

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https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1657233484266754048?s=20

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10075860-deandre-ayton-trade-rumors-bulls-mavs-blazers-hornets-linked-to-suns-center


Comparing packages here, Mavs KYRIE Chip (I don't have the creativity for an acronym like we used to use in yesteryears) beats out anything these other teams I think would realistically throw out for Ayton.

Portland is desperate, but I don't see a match here unless they're willing to facilitate a Grant SnT deal though that kind of just replaces Aytons overpaid deal with another and doesn't really solve their depth right? Hornets have some valuable assets, but do any of them make sense for a PHX team with a 35 year KD that's all in for the present?

Bulls have Vucevic, Caruso, DeRozan, etc. yet the article blatantly states that the Suns aren't really interested in Vucevic. And I don't see how DeRozan fits on a team with KD+Booker. 

I wonder if a hypothetical Ayton for Depth deal is the best route for all parties. In which case I still think the Mavs have the best mix of role players for a win-now team. Not sure though. Whaddya think?

(05-13-2023, 03:10 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: My best offer for Ayton is THJ + Reggie + McShaqtin. No picks.

(05-13-2023, 01:56 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Comparing packages here, 

(05-13-2023, 08:16 AM)omahen Wrote: Stein fantasy trade for Ayton (in his latest podcast with Hynes) is THJ+Kleber+#10. Haynes and him also mention common agent Duffy.

https://marcstein.substack.com/p/an-ode-to-the-organist-all-the-nba?sd=pf

(05-13-2023, 03:36 AM)F Gump Wrote: That's where I've landed as well on my limit for DA -- either that, or Kleber, Bullock, McGee. DA's contract is bad.

Either way, the Mavs end up with a route to possible improvement, and a much different mix.

[Do I think PHX will be interested? Probably not, unless it's the best they can do. Seems like they have to do some deal or other to move him, and are already trying to create the appearance of competition.]

But in a deal like that, the Mavs end up at a place that could offer a path to a better team perhaps.

LUKA
KYRIE 
AYTON

THJ (or Maxi)
GREEN
HARDY

FULL MLE (if Kyrie will sign for the same dollars as Luka)

PICK 10
7 players making the minimum  -- there is lots of room for some of these to play a lot, which is a potential plus in getting players to want to be here

(05-13-2023, 08:16 AM)omahen Wrote: Stein fantasy trade for Ayton (in his latest podcast with Hynes) is THJ+Kleber+#10. Haynes and him also mention common agent Duffy.
 

(05-13-2023, 11:11 AM)omahen Wrote: Ayton might be overpaid, but his 30 million are far better than any combination of 30 million from these contracts Mavs have to offer. No way that deal is done without draft compensation added. The only alternative could be to add Green instead of pick.

(05-13-2023, 03:37 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Wood and Ayton is an ideal frontcourt, JS.

(05-13-2023, 04:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I can't believe I'm going to admit to this, but a similar thought actually crossed my mind.  Moving on from THJ and Maxi leaves the bench pretty thin.  I started putting together a top 9/10.  Starters were Ayton/Luka/Green/Bullock/Kyrie.  That leaves Hardy, presumably a resigned Powell and.....

Pretty quick you get to the McGee/Morris/Bertans/Holiday types (maybe this is why Morris is so confident of his return).  I don't see Wood starting (heck, I don't see him returning at all), but his ability to fill a pretty gaping hole did cross my mind.  Of course, he'd have to accept the role I thought he was good for all along (bigger version of Lou Williams).  There is definitely a hole to be filled if Maxi and THJ move on and Wood would probably be better than what you get with the TP MLE.