(01-05-2024, 03:29 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: Me too.  i think that's exactly the guy I would target.  I'm not sure what would be enough.  2027 unprotected, 2028 pick swap and Jaden Hardy?  Is that enough?

(01-05-2024, 01:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: This. I can't believe we're still having to talk about this. 

They were MISERABLE while he was here. They weren't a good team, and it was obviously his fault. I don't really care if it could've gone down a different way (I don't think it could have) because it went down the way it did. It was obvious since the freaking bubble that it wasn't going to work with him, and they traded him a full year after they should have. The whole ordeal was wheel-spinning of the highest order and the primary reason they find themselves having to soft rebuild now. 

It was CLEARLY a mistake to bring Porzingis here. A very, very costly one. Getting him out of here was not the mistake. That was wisdom.

(01-05-2024, 03:30 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: GS needs to win now with Steph. I doubt they care about picks or Hardy

(01-05-2024, 03:36 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: It may have been a mistake in retrospect to trade for him but it was a bigger mistake to trade him for the bag of shit we acquired for him.  

(01-05-2024, 01:58 PM)mvossman Wrote: I mean, I'm sure Luka didn't handle it perfectly, but the bottom line is that he should have been a spot up shooter, pick and pop, pick and roll guy and he didn't want to do that here.  He didn't want to set picks and instead wanted to ISO.  That wasn't necessary to play with Luka, it was necessary for him to be most effective, a concept that both Rick and Kidd tried to convince him of.  He is doing in Boston what we needed him to do here.  I'm not sure how its Luka's fault that KP didn't want to set picks.

(01-05-2024, 03:37 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: They might care about THJ quite a bit though. Williams, too. Both of those guys fit there, imo. 

Can Kuminga shoot? He's the right type of athlete, that's for sure.

(01-05-2024, 03:37 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: They might care about THJ quite a bit though. Williams, too. Both of those guys fit there, imo. 

Can Kuminga shoot? He's the right type of athlete, that's for sure.

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Yeah, we're just not going to agree. I was BEGGING them to get rid of Porzingis for months and months before they did, and would've been happy with bellybutton lint by the time the trade went down. 

I wasn't a fan of Dinwiddie's before he played here, but I would prefer him on the Mavs than Porzingis. Straight up. I believe Dinwiddie is a better player.

The things I don't like about Porzingis are getting worse with every minute that passes.

(01-05-2024, 03:30 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: GS needs to win now with Steph. I doubt they care about picks or Hardy

(01-05-2024, 03:47 PM)omahen Wrote: Kuminga is a weak shooter. 28 % this year on 33 % career average. I like him, but I would much rather have a sure thing like Siakam. 

I think GSW needs to go for a serious upgrade, they will not be interested in guys like THJ. The only way for Kuminga could be imho a three way, where our pick would be considered as more valuable than Kuminga.

(01-05-2024, 04:28 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Siakam is also 29% on the year and 32% on his career on a much larger sample size but I agree he's a much more proven talent overall.  It honestly makes his fit here concerning to me because the time he's on the floor with Luka he will be shoved in a corner and he's not super affective from there.  He will absolutely help defensively and with the rebounding and non Luka minutes.

Honestly, just bringing in a bigger body who has shown a knack to defend and has a little more talent than the players we have now will be an upgrade because bringing in a bad shooter won't bring our shooting around Luka down because it's already been very down for a while now (which will be an even bigger problem if THJ is the outgoing piece for a PF).  

I'm not surprised that folks have started souring on GWill because his ability to get to the rim is pretty crappy so when his shot isn't falling his negative impact is a lot more noticeable than other players BUT I am surprised that folks haven't begun to sour on DJJ more.  I think the reality is starting to set in that we can't space the floor properly with him (in my opinion).  He attacks closeouts off the dribble well so it's helpful but playoff defenses are going to ignore him completely and just pack the paint so he can't just take off over them and dare him to shoot.  He's quietly shot under 25% from deep for basically an entire month and I'm surprised that hasn't bothered many posters here yet.

Overall point is that is that we already have pretty crappy spacing as it is so bringing in a Siakam or Kuminga will not make that worse, depending on who is outgoing.

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Want to add for context that PJ Washington is 32% on the year and 36% on his career and Jerami Grant is 42% on the year and 36% on the year.  I personally think they would both be better fits on this roster when you consider that plus the money you will have to spend on Siakam.  Any one of those three would help the team though.

(01-05-2024, 04:30 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: At least DJJ's descent to earth will make it a lot easier to re-sign him.

(01-05-2024, 04:30 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: At least DJJ's descent to earth will make it a lot easier to re-sign him.

(01-05-2024, 03:55 AM)F Gump Wrote: Here was my round number analysis look:
1 RIGHT NOW - Mavs are already at or near tax line next year, which puts them about 7M below the apron. OKAY.
2 Trade result - Trade away $41M in salaries, bring in Siakam (max is a bit over 42M), is about a wash (as you put it, "keeps us around the tax give or take a million or two depending on what Siakam signs for). YES. BUT - that does not account for two empty roster slots added, at a total cap hit of more than $4M.
3 SW Holmes - Adds 8M in room ("he can be stretched to save another $8mm or so"). YES. BUT - that does not account for one empty roster slot added, at a total cap hit of more than $2M.

So the NT-MLE room for DJJ (about $12M) is reduced by about $6M (to around the Txp-MLE of $5.2M).



Like I said, I wasn't trying to shoot AT you, but rather get some better numbers in the conversational mix. That is, we need another $6M, in addition to all that. No offense intended, and apologies if I didn't say it properly. 

Is there some other avenue to DJJ money I don't see? Or alternately, is $6M or so enough?

(01-05-2024, 05:01 PM)HoosierDaddyKidd Wrote: I wasn't expecting him to overachieve for a whole season. That's not who he's been throughout his career. He's a good 8th-9th man for the bench on a contending team with more talent than the Mavs.

(01-05-2024, 04:28 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote:

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Want to add for context that PJ Washington is 32% on the year and 36% on his career and Jerami Grant is 42% on the year and 36% on the year.  I personally think they would both be better fits on this roster when you consider that plus the money you will have to spend on Siakam.  Any one of those three would help the team though.

(01-05-2024, 05:18 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I would love Washington.

(01-05-2024, 05:12 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: He's been our 5th-best player thus far.  If Grant Williams and Josh Green lived up to expectations, we'd be a really great team.

(01-05-2024, 05:28 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Chris Haynes is saying GSW is interested in Siakam.  Haynes probably had to pull his arm out of CP3’s ass to write that, so I expect the sourcing to be pretty strong.

Toronto native Wiggins to Toronto?  He really seems to duplicate RJ Barrett.  Kuminga fits the timeline better?  Both?  The salary match has to be pretty tight with GS.  Is there a way Dallas gets involved.

Interesting fact…Kuminga and DJJ share the same agent (I don’t see that as a positive to any Kuminga to Dallas thoughts).  GSW fans think the team that gets Wiggins also GETS an asset (Moody?)