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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - rocky164 - 01-03-2024

If a trade is coming, now is the most beneficial time to do it. With a 7 game homestand there will be plenty of practice time to incorporate the new guy whoever he is.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - mvossman - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 01:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Saw something on Twitter and my instinct was to dismiss it, but I think it's at least worth considering, especially since he really hasn't had a good game yet this season...

What about a three-way where Kyrie goes somewhere and Siakam (or Markannen, or any other big name available) comes here?

Any interest in that here? Do we think there's a team who'd want Kyrie badly enough to pitch in on that deal?

I think somebody suggested a three way that involved Kyrie going out (I think to LA) and Dejounte Murray coming here.  We probably have to pay some additional assets for that, but it is something I would be interested in.  An offense oriented power forward makes more sense in that scenario.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - RGP1981 - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 01:24 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Saw something on Twitter and my instinct was to dismiss it, but I think it's at least worth considering, especially since he really hasn't had a good game yet this season...

What about a three-way where Kyrie goes somewhere and Siakam (or Markannen, or any other big name available) comes here?

Any interest in that here? Do we think there's a team who'd want Kyrie badly enough to pitch in on that deal?

I'd be interested in that... but why would any team decide to help the Mavericks... when the Mavs FO have been so, so bad for so, so long... and if those teams have the assets to lure Luka away in his year 7?

I would seriously forget about Markkanen... because if I was Danny Ainge, rather than trading Markannen to the Mavs, I would be plotting to steal Luka away by showing him how shite his current team and FO are... and especially knowing that I have the picks it would need to trade for Luka if/when he decides he's had enough.

Modern NBA contracts are structured so a player can ask out after year 7, after getting a ton of $$.  AD asked out after his year 7. The Pelicans built better teams around AD than the Mavs have built around Luka. Luka's year 7 is coming up soon. Real soon.

I don't think the Mavs could ever build a better team around Luka than this one below...

G: Keyonte (secondary playmaker, 3-point shooter)
SG: Agbaji (3-point shooter and POA defender)
SF: Luka
PF: Markannen / Hendricks (floor-spacing PFs)
C: Kessler / Hendricks (Rim protector / Rim protector who can also defend the perimeter)

The Mavs only have Lively as an equivalent to Kessler... that too, after 5 years of having Luka, lol.

I would have to be stupid in the head to think about helping the Mavs, i.e., if I was the Jazz GM, when I could have Luka myself instead, and already have the perfect pieces in place.

Just trying to point out the obvious, is all. Oh, and Luka to Utah is better than Luka to LAL.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - mvossman - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 04:59 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: I'd be interested in that... but why would any team decide to help the Mavericks... when the Mavs FO have been so, so bad for so, so long... and if those teams have the assets to lure Luka away in his year 7?

I would seriously forget about Markkanen... because if I was Danny Ainge, rather than trading Markannen to the Mavs, I would be plotting to steal Luka away by showing him how shite his current team and FO are... and especially knowing that I have the picks it would need to trade for Luka if/when he decides he's had enough.

Modern NBA contracts are structured so a player can ask out after year 7, after getting a ton of $$.  AD asked out after his year 7. The Pelicans built better teams around AD than the Mavs have built around Luka. Luka's year 7 is coming up soon. Real soon.

I don't think the Mavs could ever build a better team around Luka than this one below...

G: Keyonte (secondary playmaker, 3-point shooter)
SG: Agbaji (3-point shooter and POA defender)
SF: Luka
PF: Markannen / Hendricks (floor-spacing PFs)
C: Kessler / Hendricks (Rim protector / Rim protector who can also defend the perimeter)

The Mavs only have Lively as an equivalent to Kessler... that too, after 5 years of having Luka, lol.

I would have to be stupid in the head to think about helping the Mavs, i.e., if I was the Jazz GM, when I could have Luka myself instead, and already have the perfect pieces in place.

Just trying to point out the obvious, is all. Oh, and Luka to Utah is better than Luka to LAL.

You seem way more Utah fan than Mavericks fan.  Not sure why you are on this board.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - KillerLeft - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 04:59 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: because if I was Danny Ainge, rather than trading Markannen to the Mavs, I would be plotting to steal Luka away

You seem new to the NBA. Or, you're a Jazz fan. 

Big free agents plot and beg their way OUT of Utah, not IN. Luka will never be interested in playing there, and neither will any other player with guaranteed multiple max offers. Literally, not one. 

If Danny Ainge is approaching his job that way then he won't be very successful.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - Jmaciscool - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 04:59 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: I'd be interested in that... but why would any team decide to help the Mavericks... when the Mavs FO have been so, so bad for so, so long... and if those teams have the assets to lure Luka away in his year 7?

I would seriously forget about Markkanen... because if I was Danny Ainge, rather than trading Markannen to the Mavs, I would be plotting to steal Luka away by showing him how shite his current team and FO are... and especially knowing that I have the picks it would need to trade for Luka if/when he decides he's had enough.

Modern NBA contracts are structured so a player can ask out after year 7, after getting a ton of $$.  AD asked out after his year 7. The Pelicans built better teams around AD than the Mavs have built around Luka. Luka's year 7 is coming up soon. Real soon.

I don't think the Mavs could ever build a better team around Luka than this one below...

G: Keyonte (secondary playmaker, 3-point shooter)
SG: Agbaji (3-point shooter and POA defender)
SF: Luka
PF: Markannen / Hendricks (floor-spacing PFs)
C: Kessler / Hendricks (Rim protector / Rim protector who can also defend the perimeter)

The Mavs only have Lively as an equivalent to Kessler... that too, after 5 years of having Luka, lol.

I would have to be stupid in the head to think about helping the Mavs, i.e., if I was the Jazz GM, when I could have Luka myself instead, and already have the perfect pieces in place.

Just trying to point out the obvious, is all. Oh, and Luka to Utah is better than Luka to LAL.

Utah is a bad city.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - Scott41theMavs - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 05:55 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: Utah is a bad city.

Dammit, beat me to it.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - DallasMaverick - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 05:55 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: Utah is a bad city.

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2014/04/08/dallas-mavericks-dirk-nowitzki-on-utah-is-a-bad-city-quotation-that-was-a-good-ol-time/?outputType=amp


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - RGP1981 - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 05:44 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: You seem new to the NBA. Or, you're a Jazz fan. 

Big free agents plot and beg their way OUT of Utah, not IN. Luka will never be interested in playing there, and neither will any other player with guaranteed multiple max offers. Literally, not one. 

If Danny Ainge is approaching his job that way then he won't be very successful.

https://ilovehistory.utah.gov/yugoslavian-american-communities/

The Slovenian National Home, a lodge and community center, is located in Helper, Utah. The Slovenian National Home hosts yearly festivals celebrating Slovenian foods, dancing, music, and art.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - SleepingHero - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 06:14 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: https://ilovehistory.utah.gov/yugoslavian-american-communities/

The Slovenian National Home hosts yearly festivals celebrating Slovenian foods, dancing, music, and art.

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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - RGP1981 - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 06:21 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: [Image: giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47n61chbdsgmu76t7fc2...y.gif&ct=g]

In old days, most people from southern Slavia farming regions do not have enough food to eat or clothes to wear. Life was very hard, and immigration was one way for them to live better. Their continuous poverty, news that United States have more economic and educational opportunities, and already established Slavic community pulled immigrants to Utah.

I see history repeating itself here. Luka's current team in NBA seems like a poverty team. DJJ, G-Will, Powell, THJ, Green, Curry, Hardy, etc? 5+ whole years and still so barren, or continuously poverty stricken. He's no closer to winning an NBA title than when he was playing for Real Madrid.

Meanwhile, players like Lebron, Steph, Durant, Kawhi, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, Tatum, Booker, Fox, SGA, etc play on teams that have an embarrassment of riches. I don't even mention Wemballama yet. Even Domin-Ayton have better team in Portland. Why should Luka stay and play on poverty team because of bad owner Mark Cuban?


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 06:14 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: https://ilovehistory.utah.gov/yugoslavian-american-communities/

The Slovenian National Home, a lodge and community center, is located in Helper, Utah.  The Slovenian National Home hosts yearly festivals celebrating Slovenian foods, dancing, music, and art.

Well we know Luka likes food, so…


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - KillerLeft - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 06:14 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: https://ilovehistory.utah.gov/yugoslavian-american-communities/

The Slovenian National Home, a lodge and community center, is located in Helper, Utah.  The Slovenian National Home hosts yearly festivals celebrating Slovenian foods, dancing, music, and art.

Lol, this is getting sad. 

You know the kid has had a Porsche since he could drive and has been famous outside of his country since his early teens, right? That's like saying Tom Hardy would buy his US home in SLC because there's an authentic British pub he likes there. 

Luka probably has his eye on island somewhere...not freaking Utah.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - RGP1981 - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 07:36 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Lol, this is getting sad. 

You know the kid has had a Porsche since he could drive and has been famous outside of his country since his early teens, right? That's like saying Tom Hardy would buy his US home in SLC because there's an authentic British pub he likes there. 

Luka probably has his eye on island somewhere...not freaking Utah.

Mark Cuban is like Prince John, fat usurper of throne from King Richard. Luka is Slovenian Robin Hood. Luka takes Prince John's money until year 7... then boom! We gone! Tongue


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - KillerLeft - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 06:28 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: Mark Cuban is like Prince John, fat usurper of throne from King Richard. Luka is Slovenian Robin Hood. He takes Prince John's money until year 7... then boom! We gone! Tongue

Now THIS has a chance of happening, sure. We all know that. 

But UTAH????!!!!

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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - ACMFFL - 01-03-2024

Imagine being that delusional to think superstars would even entertain the idea of playing in freaking Utah xD


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - KillerLeft - 01-03-2024

Anyone else seeing this Wiggins to the Mavs rumor? Real, or made up? 

https://x.com/that1mavsfan/status/1742667662063476773?s=20


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - DanSchwartzgan - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 08:29 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Anyone else seeing this Wiggins to the Mavs rumor? Real, or made up? 

https://x.com/that1mavsfan/status/1742667662063476773?s=20

Jazz included?  Holmes to GS makes no sense with the centers they have unless one is moving to Utah.  Seems more likely Holmes/Hardy to Utah and THJ (or something else like GWill and Green) to GSW with Dallas getting Wiggins and Olynyk.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - KillerLeft - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 08:38 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Jazz included?  Holmes to GS makes no sense with the centers they have unless one is moving to Utah.  Seems more likely Holmes/Hardy to Utah and THJ (or something else like GWill and Green) to GSW with Dallas getting Wiggins and Olynyk.

I did see something about a Mavericks player going to the Jazz, yeah.


RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Shams- Knicks interested in KAT| Siakam trade soon? - Winter - 01-03-2024

(01-03-2024, 08:38 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Jazz included?  Holmes to GS makes no sense with the centers they have unless one is moving to Utah.  Seems more likely Holmes/Hardy to Utah and THJ (or something else like GWill and Green) to GSW with Dallas getting Wiggins and Olynyk.

Interesting. It makes sense for Dallas (hopefully Wiggins regains his stats from last year). It's the THj or GWill plus Green that is the most interesting part. THj moving might have the biggest impact on the roster.

Olynyk brings rebounds, assists, and a few points. He's not a shot blocker, but he's an upgrade.

I'd like to see this trade.