(12-22-2023, 04:04 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Saw this idea on Discord and thought it was interesting:

LAL gets Kyrie

Dallas gets Markkanen and Olynyk

Utah gets Russell, Rui, 2025 LAL unprotected and 2027 Dallas unprotected.

(12-22-2023, 04:04 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Saw this idea on Discord and thought it was interesting:

LAL gets Kyrie

Dallas gets Markkanen and Olynyk

Utah gets Russell, Rui, 2025 LAL unprotected and 2027 Dallas unprotected.

(12-22-2023, 04:04 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Saw this idea on Discord and thought it was interesting:

LAL gets Kyrie

Dallas gets Markkanen and Olynyk

Utah gets Russell, Rui, 2025 LAL unprotected and 2027 Dallas unprotected.

(12-23-2023, 10:06 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Like I said on discord. Why are we giving up the best player in the trade AND a FRP? We’re letting the Lakers off the hook huge in this trade. Making it closer, swap Reeves with DLo and add Vandy to Dallas and take away the first from Dal.

(12-23-2023, 10:06 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Like I said on discord. Why are we giving up the best player in the trade AND a FRP? We’re letting the Lakers off the hook huge in this trade. Making it closer, swap Reeves with DLo and add Vandy to Dallas and take away the first from Dal.

(12-23-2023, 10:35 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Are there any young floor running shot blockers sitting on the bench somewhere to back up Lively?

(12-23-2023, 03:02 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: As much as I love Markkanen, and trust me, I love the dude, I'm hesitant on the deal.

2 main reasons:

Mavs have always required a competent off-ball scoring threat, one that can create his own shot successfully, next to Luka. Brunson grew into that guy. Kyrie is definitely that guy. Lauri...? He actually becomes one of the league's worsts shooters on multiple dribbles. In fact he's one of the lowest usage stars in the league. The dude does not create shots for himself. We'd be even more reliant on Luka to create and we're losing basically 24mpg of good PG play that Kyrie does generate.

2nd, the Mavs now need to find another creator, but have cashed in their last 1st until the summer. I'd have to think long and hard about it, but I don't think I'd be for it. Lauri does make us younger... He is good..

Ugh. Tough one.

(12-25-2023, 05:36 AM)Dundalis Wrote: Agree with the ball handler part, but going from a 31 year old undersized PG to a 26 year old high efficiency shooting big is worth it especially in the long run from a future value perspective.

Markennen would still take a lot of pressure off, as an efficient high level point producer despite not being a dribble creator, to where Im not sure the lack of another pure creator would matter quite as much. Luka hasn't really played with a big who can score like Markannen before (KP avg 57% TS with the Mavs, Markannen has been at 64% the last two seasons, and IMO has a better rounded offensive game right now than KP particularly in Dallas).

It would put a lot more pressure on Exum for sure, and arguably you wanna try and swing something for another ball handler but I'd do it just for the benefit to the development of the team beyond just this season. Markannen has also arguably become a passable defender, and helps with the size we are desperately missing.

(12-25-2023, 12:20 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I was listening to Rusillo on the Bill Simmons podcast this week.  He made a comment about Lauri and why would Utah trade him?  They have enough picks.  Players are not breaking down the doors to play in Utah.  It  appears he likes it there and is the #1 guy there.  Even if Utah wants to reset, keeping Lauri shouldn't really impact that. 

As far as Dallas, with the emergence of Jones and Exum (hopefully both stay healthy) it allows them to stay patient.  In all honesty, is a player better than Exum and Jones available on the market with the assets Dallas has to offer?  Lively too with him being so good, so early.  They can look for a fringe move, while biding their time.  If a deal presents itself, sure go after it.  But with the emergence of Jones and Exum it allows them to take a long term view.

(12-26-2023, 07:47 AM)HAguiar95 Wrote: If we're going the backup C route, offering few assets, which is my preference (Holmes/Hardy or Holmes/2nds should be our offer), Olynyk, Gafford and Richards are there for the taking.

(12-25-2023, 02:30 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think the play is getting a guy like Capela for cheap. The market was basically the Mavs and maybe PHX last summer with Ayton and THJ trades.

Now the Mavs are definitely not as interested before and PHX doesn't have the assets. Who is going to go to the Hawks with the matching contracts and need for Capela?

Hawks are 5 games below .500. The Murray+Young pairing doesn't really work. I think they're in for a restructuring. Capela might not be in their long term plans. 


They definitely wanted THJ in the summer. The Mavs are probably not interested now. But could Capela be had for Holmes+Hardy+2nds?

  
Mavs get another wing and backup center. Capela is expensive for a backup, but it means they always have a great center each game for 48 mins.

(12-26-2023, 10:20 AM)mvossman Wrote: I don't think Holmes + 2nds is enough to get anybody.  I am curious what value Hardy has right now.

(12-26-2023, 12:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral)
Dejounte Murray is a potential target for the Lakers, per @ShamsCharania

[Charania] The Los Angeles Lakers are expected to express interest in Atlanta Hawks guard and Klutch client Dejounte Murray. Any trade for a star-level player like Murray or LaVine is expected to include guys like Austin Reaves and Max Christie along with their last available first-round draft pick.

(12-26-2023, 11:23 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Nik Richards has been a sneaky favorite of mine, but not sure what he would gather even if Charlotte wanted to move him.

(12-26-2023, 02:30 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Interesting thing about Richards.  He makes $5.0mm and we have a TPE worth $4.95mm.  But Dan, you might say, $5.0mm is more than $4.95mm, so how would that work?  Well, if we are under the first apron (which we are), the spread on a TPE is $250,000.  So, we can actually take back up to $5.2mm.

That basically means you can do pick(s) for Richards with no outgoing players if you want.  Or, Hardy for Richards (which keeps you under the tax).  Or, a smaller salary like Morris or Powell with pick(s) for Richards.  He's probably the right target from an age and skillset standpoint in that his game is similar (just worse) than Lively in many ways.  He's an Excel guy.  In case it wasn't clear, pick(s) meant seconds.  Also, Josh for Richards straight up does not work.

Lively/Richards
DJJ/GWill
Exum/Green
Kyrie/THJ
Luka/One of the PG's

Edit:  How much more would you pay to move Holmes in a Richards deal?  The idea would be to get further under the apron next season to be able to pay DJJ.  Holmes for Richards isn't a match, but if you add Non-Guaranteed Thor to the deal, it does work.  Lowers next year's salary by over $7mm which gets us about $15mm under the first apron and able to use the full MLE (but be hard-capped for doing so).