(12-21-2023, 12:38 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Of course. Why would the Nets?  Claxton has been one of the most efficient players in the league and he can rebound and defend. He’s an outstanding player. I’d give all that up just for him. But can’t see why the Nets would take it.

(12-21-2023, 12:45 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Claxton is a free agent this year and will hit free agency due to extension limitations. Nets might balk at paying 20+mil for him and won't want to lose him for nothing. 

They have a glut of forwards in O'Neal, DFS, Johnson, and Mikal, and they are certainly not a contender. They're getting a 1st and 3 young guys that can develop into something and/or be able to flip for even more assets later down the road. 

It's a light trade but I can see a team like the Nets wanting a guy like Josh Green and Hardy, 2 guys that can move the ball. Currently they only have Dinwiddie as a PG. 

Another variation I have is sending THJ to Orlando for a 1st and Gary Harris. Then reroute those 2 to the Nets and we keep Maxi and our 2027. Or even send 2027 along with the Orlando first if that's what it takes. 

I really like this trade for depth and flexibility.

(12-21-2023, 12:49 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Claxton is about to get about $20M next year and you think he’s a backup?

(12-21-2023, 12:22 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:

Would you guys do this trade along with the 2027 first? 

(12-21-2023, 12:49 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Claxton is about to get about $20M next year and you think he’s a backup?

(12-21-2023, 12:51 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think he's what we need and regardless of his contract number he'd be an asset. 

Lively can easily play off the bench his first 2 years. If Lively outplays Claxton then we have a solid trade asset at a good contract number for star players.

(12-21-2023, 08:36 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: We clearly need a better backup center.  I think DP might be more functional if we had a bigger 4 to play with him.  However, lineups with him and Grant Williams are clearly failing.

I've posted trade proposals for Wendell Carter Jr before and I think he would be a good fit here.

Another good fit who is likely available is Daniel Gafford.  He is among the best rim protectors in the NBA.  He is an above average rebounder.  He is an elite finisher at the rim shooting over 69% from the field.  His FT percentage is solid for a big as well at 70%.

The Wizards are terrible with minimal promising young talent-   they are a lock to tank for the next several seasons.  

I believe a fair trade would be the following:

Mavs send Richaun Holmes, Maxi Kleber and their 2027 unprotected first to the Wizards i.e. Daniel Gafford, Delon Wright and Gallinari.    

Gafford gives us great platoon center to go with Lively and is on a reasonable contract.

Delon Wright and Gallinari are expiring contracts and would free up enough room for us to have the full MLE this coming summer.  

I think this solves two big problems for us.  I'd even consider including Jaden Hardy in the deal if the Wizards would include a future 2nd rounder.

(12-21-2023, 08:36 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: We clearly need a better backup center.  I think DP might be more functional if we had a bigger 4 to play with him.  However, lineups with him and Grant Williams are clearly failing.

I've posted trade proposals for Wendell Carter Jr before and I think he would be a good fit here.

Another good fit who is likely available is Daniel Gafford.  He is among the best rim protectors in the NBA.  He is an above average rebounder.  He is an elite finisher at the rim shooting over 69% from the field.  His FT percentage is solid for a big as well at 70%.

The Wizards are terrible with minimal promising young talent-   they are a lock to tank for the next several seasons.  

I believe a fair trade would be the following:

Mavs send Richaun Holmes, Maxi Kleber and their 2027 unprotected first to the Wizards i.e. Daniel Gafford, Delon Wright and Gallinari.    

Gafford gives us great platoon center to go with Lively and is on a reasonable contract.

Delon Wright and Gallinari are expiring contracts and would free up enough room for us to have the full MLE this coming summer.  

I think this solves two big problems for us.  I'd even consider including Jaden Hardy in the deal if the Wizards would include a future 2nd rounder.

(12-21-2023, 11:00 AM)mvossman Wrote: This is basically sending out an unprotected first for a backup center and to clear some cap space.

Its a weird place to be in.  We need a better backup center, but you don't really want to pay a lot for that, and the guys that are reasonably good (like Gafford) are going to want to start somewhere and wont want to be here. 

One way around this is to get a 4/5 guy that can play some minutes with Lively so he is not strictly a backup.  That's why guys like Stewart and Wendle Carter are brought up. 

Another option that you referred to in your first sentence was to get a bigger 4.  Powell is useless playing with Williams or Timmy in the frontcourt.  He might be tolerable next to a big 4 (too bad Maxi can't seem to get on the court).

(12-21-2023, 09:27 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: You lost me at unprotected first for Daniel Gafford

(12-21-2023, 11:19 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I've seen no indication that Wendell Carter is. 

(12-22-2023, 01:55 AM)sefant Wrote: Reddit had a good suggestion for once. Goga had a DNP with WCJ back. Thats is your natural backup target with Isaac maybe. Only 24 yrs old, also eastern european, tho probably a good chemistry fit with Luka.

They are kinda stacked on bigs as well with Mo Wagner, who always killing it from the bench with multiple 20 PPG+ games. They ain't trading Wagner because of Franz.

He is expiring.

Goga 6th best D-EPM in the league, higher than Gobert/AD/Mobely. He is sandwiched by KP/Edwards on EPM 

(12-22-2023, 01:55 AM)sefant Wrote: Reddit had a good suggestion for once. Goga had a DNP with WCJ back. Thats is your natural backup target with Isaac maybe. Only 24 yrs old, also eastern european, tho probably a good chemistry fit with Luka.

They are kinda stacked on bigs as well with Mo Wagner, who always killing it from the bench with multiple 20 PPG+ games. They ain't trading Wagner because of Franz.

He is expiring.

Goga 6th best D-EPM in the league, higher than Gobert/AD/Mobely. He is sandwiched by KP/Edwards on EPM 

(12-22-2023, 09:19 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I have a moonshot bet on the Magic to win the NBA championship so I'm a Magic fan this year as well as the Mavs.  I've watched most of their games..

Goga has been awesome this year. and has been one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.

It's difficult to determine his value but I think he would also also require a first round pick to acquire.  Teams like the Pelicans and Thunder really need another center and can casually offer a first plus some additional assets.

Also, I believe if we did trade for him we would only have his early bird rights.   My understanding is we would only be able to offer him the league average salary this coming summer which seems to be around $10 million per year.  I believe he'd receive offers elsewhere on teams where he could start and make significantly more money.  

We'd likely be renting him for just this season.  As I don't think we're a contender here, I probably wouldn't offer a first for him.  

He would be great as a platoon center here though.  He's a better version of Gafford.

(12-22-2023, 09:19 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I have a moonshot bet on the Magic to win the NBA championship so I'm a Magic fan this year as well as the Mavs.  I've watched most of their games..

Goga has been awesome this year. and has been one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.

It's difficult to determine his value but I think he would also also require a first round pick to acquire.  Teams like the Pelicans and Thunder really need another center and can casually offer a first plus some additional assets.

Also, I believe if we did trade for him we would only have his early bird rights.   My understanding is we would only be able to offer him the league average salary this coming summer which seems to be around $10 million per year.  I believe he'd receive offers elsewhere on teams where he could start and make significantly more money.  

We'd likely be renting him for just this season.  As I don't think we're a contender here, I probably wouldn't offer a first for him.  

He would be great as a platoon center here though.  He's a better version of Gafford.