(12-18-2023, 05:05 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I don't know for sure without going back and looking, but I think I proposed THJ/Holmes last week...which also works and leaves Dallas just under the tax.

I'm a fan of the Bojan for THJ swap in terms of putting another offensive creator on the floor.  It will cost something to make that swap.  If we have to pay something for that, then I'd rather pay more and do the Stewart/Holmes swap too.  That gets you someone who can play two positions and hit 3's at a much younger age on top of the THJ/Bojan part.

(12-18-2023, 05:05 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: That’s why I said it works money-wise. I think the difference all around is worth a FRP, but I know saying that around here brings out the boo birds.  

(12-18-2023, 05:10 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Agreed.  That is why I nuance the issue with words like "draft compensation" now as I'm tired of dealing with that every time it comes up.  But, if you can get the benefit of moving from THJ to Bojan and also get a long term piece (even if he's just a good two position backup), I'm willing to do 2027 in that deal.

(12-18-2023, 05:23 PM)Winter Wrote: The Bogan vs THj concept has Bogan winning most statistical metrics. It's really the 3-year age difference that closes the gap. The fact that Bojan can create, as Dan said, is a pretty important plus.

The draft pick is not as troublesome to me if that gets in the mix. It's not likely that we get a better player that Stewart in the draft. Stewart is young, tough, and has had some good games as a Piston. The Mavs may not get another shot at that kind of player... one who is just coming into his own looks NBA-ready. He's athletic enough to be moved around and is still pretty darn scary under the basket.

(12-18-2023, 12:08 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1736771375405162595



Danny Ainge at it again...

(12-18-2023, 05:47 PM)mvossman Wrote: I mean we signed two guys to min deals that I would rather have than Stewart, so the opportunities are out there.  He is making 15 mil a year.  I'm not sure he is worth that yet, let alone an unprotected first on top.  It does not help that (as mentioned above) I struggle to see his fit.

(12-18-2023, 05:01 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Cool.   I just don't see how that helps Detroit.  Who knows with Detroit though.   

Stewart is a young player on a long term contract.   Bogi has a shorter contract than Hardaway.    Seems like they could get better individual pieces if they traded both seperately.

(12-18-2023, 06:01 PM)Winter Wrote: I hear what you're saying, but he can rebound and he's been largely a center on this Detroit team (and a physical presence). People frequently speak about his high motor. He's been at Detroit for his 4-year career, and several articles from past years have Detroit focusing on his offensive game because that where he was most challenged. His defense is an unknown to me, but his head and work ethic seems to be in the right place. 

The Mavs need another center, and an athletic one who could play PF in a pinch seems like a gamble worth taking.

(12-18-2023, 10:11 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Stewart and Killian Hayes were dnp-coaches decision tonight

(12-18-2023, 05:25 PM)mvossman Wrote: I'm struggling a bit with the Stuart fit.  He seems like a tweener to me.  He does not protect the rim and he is not a plus perimeter defender.  He is not a rim runner, and historically he has been a 33% shooter from three on moderate volume, with an uptick in the small sample of quarter season.  Is the plan for him to be a backup center?  Will he truly provide enough spacing for 5 out?  Can he play next to Lively?  Does he make sense as the backup PF?  I can see the argument that he has versatility to play all of those roles, and the argument that he doesn't really fit in any of them very well.

(12-19-2023, 09:18 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: I happen to think Isaiah Stewart is the ideal target for this team. This team needs length and physicality. They can't match up with teams like Denver.

Stewart fouls too much but he brings the wood physically and he's a versatile switchable defender who doesn't need the ball. He punishes people. He takes open shots just like GWill and DJJ. He's not a center but he can play the 4 and 5. He would certainly start at PF and his 3pt percentage and overall scoring efficiency would go up just like everyone else who plays next to Luka. I wouldn't worry about this team offensively at all. Acquiring Stewart would be about defense, defensive rebounding, size, and toughness.

I'll add, the plan would be to start Stewart next to Lively and GWill. Three guys with good size at 3-4-5, who can set solid screens and defend multiple positions.