(12-13-2023, 03:16 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: We still have part of the MLE. Would it be prudent (or can it be done) to renegotiate his contract and give him more money for more years?

(12-13-2023, 03:58 PM)WillE Wrote: No.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q59

(12-13-2023, 03:40 PM)mvossman Wrote: Would you rather Hartenstein or DJJ?  I don't think we can extend a one year deal.  I believe the only avenue to sign DJJ is exceptions, and if he keeps playing like this it will probably take the same MLE that Hartenstein would (which will take finagling to have).

(12-13-2023, 01:37 PM)mvossman Wrote: I believe they have to stay under the tax line in order to use the full MLE, right?  If they get to the 1st apron they would have to use the tax MLE which might not be enough.

(12-13-2023, 06:26 PM)loki Wrote: You can be in the tax and still use the full MLE. Just have to stay under the 1st apron.

(12-13-2023, 12:53 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I would, too, if Thompson was ready to come off of the bench and re-sign for THJ money. Is he ready to do either of those things, or is he going to do what seems likely to me and demand a starter's role and paycheck, ruining some other team? He's washed, obviously, at least to the extent that he'll never be a great defender and splash brother again. He's probably still better than THJ, so I get it...just rocky waters ahead on that path, imo.

(12-13-2023, 10:20 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: If Thompson is better than THJ, it's not by much.  THJ is actually shooting much better from 3 this season-  THJ at 39% and Klay at 34%.  

Klay is probably a little better defensively.  Neither is very good on that end.  

I'd rather have THJ here.  He took a discount to stay with the Mavericks rather than sign with the Pelicans.  The declining contract is nice.  I like THJ and think we should keep him here.

If we send him to the Warriors, Draymond Green might beat him to death.  THJ deserves better.   I don't see that Klay really improves our team that much.  I also don't think the Warriors would trade him unless it's for an upgrade.

(12-13-2023, 08:52 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: Is that possible with Green’s extension kicking in? Or would we have to move a contract like Holmes for air?

(12-13-2023, 09:01 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: I remember making a post before the season that went something like— “with Lively, Omax, Hardy and 3 first round picks and swaps, I think we may have the ammo or even be favorites to land Embiid!” And now if they called about a deal involving Embiid for Lively I think I’d be like, “We Good.” Lively just seems to get better all the time. What a smart kid. At the rate he is improving, I wouldnt be shocked if he is spacing the floor like Brooke Lopez two years from now. He’s 19.

(12-14-2023, 06:55 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: And honestly, Grant needs to come off the bench when DJj is healthy even if the Mavs don’t find a trade. DJj is the better player.

(12-14-2023, 05:57 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: We good? Not me. Lively would be gone in heartbeat if it were me. Embiid is a monster. Most dominant big since Shaq.

(12-14-2023, 12:55 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: Totally get where you are coming from. Embiid is a great two-way player and dominant. But the equation wouldn’t be Embiid for Lively straight up. They would want Lively, Omax, Green and our 3 first round picks. Embiid also has a ton of mileage on him even though he’s only 29 and has he EVER been healthy for a post season? I’m not saying I wouldn’t consider it. It would make us title favorites for the next 3 years. But we would suddenly be a much older team with no assets for a decade out.

(12-14-2023, 01:09 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: This. 

AND, a deal for Embiid would require a huge paradigm shift on how the team approaches things on either side of the court. That doesn't mean it's a move you don't do, necessarily, but I actually happen to think the "Screen and D" style big is the way to go on a Luka team, so I'm really, really content with Lively. 

Embiid is obviously one of the better players in the game, so it's not about Lively being better in a vacuum - he's not.

(12-14-2023, 02:42 AM)F Gump Wrote: Right now the Mavs are right at the 1st Apron in 2024-25, with the commitments they already have and a roster of 14. That includes Holmes.

The cap is projected at 142M, and the corresponding MLE is projected at 12.95M. Holmes will be making 12.877M. So if you erase Holmes, you can pay a player making the MLE (or almost all of it). If Kleber is healthy, Holmes seems very expendable this season to swap for an expiring-contract player. (And if Kleber isn't healthy, wouldn't be and his 11M salary be shopped too?)

Where the cap actually lands does impact those numbers.

All of that assumes there are no other changes to the roster. But it's more likely that multiple moves happen between now and then, which changes all the math.

One of the bigger unknowns is the progress of OMax. Will he show enough this season where they don't feel compelled to chase a big wing or PF type? That is going to make a significant difference in their roster building and how they allocate future payroll, one way or the other.

(12-14-2023, 10:07 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I call Jones Jr, Grant, Exum, Lively, and hopefully Green as "do your job guys".  We didn't have guys like this last year.  With the exception of DFS.  You have two stars, so you just want guys who will fit next to our stars and do little things that impact winning.  So far, Dallas has gotten this.  Regardless who Dallas targets in a trade the next year or so, we need to make sure we have  the "do your job" guys.  It makes everything so much easier.

(12-14-2023, 12:55 PM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: Totally get where you are coming from. Embiid is a great two-way player and dominant. But the equation wouldn’t be Embiid for Lively straight up. They would want Lively, Omax, Green and our 3 first round picks. Embiid also has a ton of mileage on him even though he’s only 29 and has he EVER been healthy for a post season? I’m not saying I wouldn’t consider it. It would make us title favorites for the next 3 years. But we would suddenly be a much older team with no assets for a decade out.