(12-01-2023, 12:21 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: I agree that Dorian may not be worth a first to the Mavs but to a contender who is truly one piece away he absolutely would be.  Dorian is quietly having the best year of his career in Brooklyn after his worst statistically season since his rookie year but they way we've reworked the roster he would be one of the oldest players in our rotation if he came back and he wouldn't be enough to put us over the top so for that reason it wouldn't make sense for us at all.  It's the same reason I'd rather not go after Jerami Grant honestly although I do think he's a better player than Dorian.  The majority of our rotation is still in their mid twenties and while those are the toughest players to acquire, that would certainly be the preference I think.

RE: Mavs aren't planning acquiring another first.  I do think there's a real chance here to use someone else's first in a three team trade so that they can save their own.  Is Hardaway equal value to Gary Harris and one of the Magic's lesser first round picks?  I think so but that package means nothing to us.  If we would be able to leverage Hardaway that way I think it opens up a lot of doors for us in the immediate future while also allowing us to really go shopping hard this offseason.

I'm holding onto my dream of Hardaway/Harris + pick/PJ Washington 3 way swap.  Having three firsts and Holmes' expiring this offseason would allow us to be really flexible finding additional upgrades and potentially even get into the draft if there's someone we like (assuming we convey the pick that is).

(12-01-2023, 07:50 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Would anyone do this trade?

Mavs get: DFS

Nets get: Holmes, Hardy, Mavs FRP

That seems like what it would cost. I don’t think that’s the way, but I’d think about it

(12-01-2023, 05:41 PM)Jym Wrote: OG would be tempting but there's gotta be other teams who could beat our best offer 
Otherwise I'm not too eager to burn assets

(12-02-2023, 01:06 AM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Just wait til the offseason and you can do Green for DFS straight up. The Nets wanted Green before in the Kyrie trade and I bet the Mavs are regretting sending DFS instead of him now. DFS won't be the difference-maker but he will be an upgrade from what they currently have. DFS fits the Mavs window now and the Nets will get a younger role player

(12-02-2023, 01:06 AM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Just wait til the offseason and you can do Green for DFS straight up. The Nets wanted Green before in the Kyrie trade and I bet the Mavs are regretting sending DFS instead of him now. DFS won't be the difference-maker but he will be an upgrade from what they currently have. DFS fits the Mavs window now and the Nets will get a younger role player

(12-02-2023, 09:29 AM)sefant Wrote: Question is if that improves the team. DFS is dead last on +/- with the Nets.

D-EPM

Lively -0.6 
Green -0.7   
DJJ -0.9
Exum -1.0
Grant -1.1
Kyrie -1.2
Luka -1.3
Seth -1.8
Powell -2.3
THJ -2.3

DFS -2.0
Bullock -2.3

(12-02-2023, 11:51 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: @davidjsmith1232
Zach Lowe and Bobby Marks talk Jazz and Lauri Markkanen at the 1:01 mark for just a few minutes. They both say a lot of teams are mentioning Lauri to them for trades.

Again, I still think he is a Jazz cornerstone and is going nowhere.

(12-02-2023, 12:51 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Just out of curiosity, in a world where you could simply add either player to this roster to get as many wins as possible this year, would the board add DFS or Lauri?

Basically wondering what skill set folks find more valuable to this roster right now.

(12-02-2023, 12:51 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Just out of curiosity, in a world where you could simply add either player to this roster to get as many wins as possible this year, would the board add DFS or Lauri?

Basically wondering what skill set folks find more valuable to this roster right now.

(12-02-2023, 12:51 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Just out of curiosity, in a world where you could simply add either player to this roster to get as many wins as possible this year, would the board add DFS or Lauri?

Basically wondering what skill set folks find more valuable to this roster right now.

(12-02-2023, 03:12 PM)mvossman Wrote: Dorian makes more sense from a fit standpoint, but LM is a much better player so you would have to go with him.  But reality is LM would me much more expensive.

(12-02-2023, 11:52 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Mavs don’t have good mid range contracts for trade matching. THJ is probably more productive right now than anyone you’d bring back and Holmes contract isnt quite big enough and may have more value to the Mavs also than in a trade.  Maybe the Nets would just take back Holmes for DFS as a salary dump? It would save them 15 million plus in that third remaining year of DFS’s contract, right?  I’d do something like that.

(12-02-2023, 04:15 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: So many wasted roster spots right now that limit what they can do. Wenyen Gabriel is in the G-League...get rid of someone and sign him ASAP. Call up Greg Brown and give him minutes. This current team is what happens when the Mavs are so obsessed with "bigs" that can shoot threes that they would rather go small and undersized with these floor spacers than figure out how to integrate a tall/lenthy PFs even if they can't shoot. You're going to get killed on the boards every game and lose out on these 50/50 balls when you have to play GW/DJJ at the 4 and Green at the 3

(12-02-2023, 04:15 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: So many wasted roster spots right now that limit what they can do. Wenyen Gabriel is in the G-League...get rid of someone and sign him ASAP. Call up Greg Brown and give him minutes. This current team is what happens when the Mavs are so obsessed with "bigs" that can shoot threes that they would rather go small and undersized with these floor spacers than figure out how to integrate a tall/lenthy PFs even if they can't shoot. You're going to get killed on the boards every game and lose out on these 50/50 balls when you have to play GW/DJJ at the 4 and Green at the 3