(11-30-2023, 05:19 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: I don’t see why the Warriors would trade us Wiggins for anything on our roster unless they were blowing it up. A third team would be needed.

(11-30-2023, 02:31 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: It is probably going to be tough to have the best offer and would we really want to use prime assets at this point when next year we would have more?   It would probably be more likely if DFS was expiring but he still has a few years left on his deal.   

I have been wondering if instead of getting a #3 we use our remaining assets for 2 level B type players.   Like Dorian and maybe a 4/5 type player to have a deep and athletic team.  Rather one that is more top heavy.  A lot would determine is what the team thinks Green is and what OMAX will turn into.   If they think OMAX is a starter in the next year, you may not need to use the remaining assets for an all-star level player and instead focus on length and depth.

(11-30-2023, 05:22 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: This. If they are trading him, they’re trading to upgrade the team, not dump him.

(11-30-2023, 05:24 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I like the idea of DFS if he doesn't take a first to acquire.

(11-30-2023, 06:28 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I’ve seen in several places that they’re asking for two 1sts for DFS, one for O’Neal.

(11-30-2023, 09:38 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: DFS isn't worth a first. 

(11-30-2023, 09:59 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Jake Weinbach (@JWeinbachNBA)
Jazz All-Star Lauri Markkanen is an interesting name to monitor on the trade market.

If Utah continues to trend downward, there’s a chance that the organization sells high on key veterans to prioritize the long-term future. Markkanen could become a free agent in 2025.


I NEED THE FINNISHER. THROW EVERYTHING AT HIM.

(11-30-2023, 10:05 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: BRK thinks he is worth TWO firsts.

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I could handle this. 

He obviously adds a whole new dimension to the front court, offensively. How's his defense and rebounding?

(11-30-2023, 09:59 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Jake Weinbach (@JWeinbachNBA)
Jazz All-Star Lauri Markkanen is an interesting name to monitor on the trade market.

If Utah continues to trend downward, there’s a chance that the organization sells high on key veterans to prioritize the long-term future. Markkanen could become a free agent in 2025.


I NEED THE FINNISHER. THROW EVERYTHING AT HIM.

(11-30-2023, 10:11 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Last year, he and Kessler were the engine that made their defense.

(11-30-2023, 10:35 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I think we better hope he makes it to the summer…speaking of someone who would require multiple firsts.  I don’t think we have the draft capital to make a deal for LM right now.  BTW, BS on 2 firsts for DFS

(11-30-2023, 10:35 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I think we better hope he makes it to the summer…speaking of someone who would require multiple firsts.  I don’t think we have the draft capital to make a deal for LM right now.   

(12-01-2023, 09:33 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Another note on LM (in case this gets any louder).  He's another of those guys who probably won't extend even under the new 140% rule.  An extension off of an $18mm salary is only in the $25mm range.  Utah is well under the cap next summer and can do what Sacramento did with Sabonis (renegotiate and extend).  Problem solved.

If for some reason they don't do that, then it is either risk UFA the next summer or cash him in at the best possible time.  It is certainly possible to see why Utah might cash him in.  He's not exactly an iron man and while he is a 25/9 guy on efficient shooting, is he really a max or super-max guy?  Is he the star to build your franchise around or the guy you want to play alongside your star?  How about his timeline compared to a longer term rebuild.  He, Lively and Luka would be an interesting Big-3 once Kyrie starts to fade.

We are coming up on Nico's 20 game evaluation period.  I find it interesting that Holmes is finally getting some run (or is he getting some evaluation time).  I've questioned whether (for the current season) the bigger need is to replace Powell/Holmes behind Lively or to replace one of Green/DJJ/GWill in the top 8.  I get that if you want to add a third star that he's probably a big wing (I've long said this team will be trouble if we have someone who pushes GWill to the bench).  But for this season's playoff run and given the assets we have, I still like putting a better big behind Lively.

Note also the move of Green to the starting lineup just ahead of the 20 game mark.  It looked good against Houston.  When is the last time we got out to a 9 point lead in the first 7 minutes.  Among the things I like about this is DJJ off the bench with THJ and one of our stars gives us more length/size than Green with THJ and one of our stars (Powell, THJ, Green and Kyrie lineups are a bad idea).  Don't know if people heard Kidd talking about Green in a recent post game.  Kidd doesn't place much, if any, value on Green scoring.  In fact, he said Green's best game was probably the Washington game.  If you don't recall, that was zero points and 4 boards on 0/4 shooting.  But, he was +12 and active in a 13 point win.  He's in the lineup to defend and disrupt and move the ball and keep defenders honest.  I think him starting and how well (or not) Holmes plays the next week plus will be interesting to watch.

(11-30-2023, 09:38 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Well, the Mavs 1) don't have two firsts, and 2) are interested. 

I doubt that 1) the Mavs are planning on going out and acquiring another first by trading away live basketball assets, and also 2) that the "asking price" means that they gave up and are currently crying in their beer that they can't get DFS.

DFS isn't worth a first. He's overpaid by the standards of any team that doesn't have his biggest fan as their franchise player. Nico and Lindsay will find a way.

BTW, even the Mavs giving a first for DFS when there are better players who will go for a first would be GMing malpractice. Brooklyn's dreamin'.

(12-01-2023, 02:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't know folks, haven't we been clamoring for size at the wing position? Doesn't DFS bring exactly that, coupled with tenacious D and already knows how to play with this team?

DFS would be a fantastic target.

(12-01-2023, 04:10 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Personally, I don't think this is a year for a big Mavs deadline deal. Maybe a small one, but I think the best thing they can do is to let the team gel and mesh a bit this season, get them through at least one playoff series (hopefully two) and then go into the summer with a much better idea of who the team is.

Constant turnover is the worst thing in sports.