(05-10-2023, 11:22 AM)Reunion Mav Wrote: Let me add a small tidbit about THJ and others. If we do keep Kyrie, I expect a much larger positive benefit from playing with 2 super stars than we saw this year. We did not get much gravity effect from the stars for whatever reason during this past horrible year. I am very confident this will happen this year. THJ in particular if he is still here, will settle into a comfort zone as the 3rd best player (his view) where he lets the offense come to him and executes the easy play AND focuses on defense. This works as both a starter or bench player because of a clearly superior star on the floor.

(05-10-2023, 11:44 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: New idea to use the 10th pick for a useful player.  I believe this would solve a problem for each team.

Dallas trades the 10th pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves as well as Javale McGee in exchange for Jaden McDaniels and Nathan Knight.

Fundamentally, the trade is pick 10 for Jaden McDaniels.  I included the McGee and Knight for salary matching purposes.

(05-10-2023, 12:24 PM)numnuts23 Wrote: Let's say they get lotto lucky and get 2nd or 3rd pick.  What is that worth via trade?

Scoot Henderson and Brandon Miller would be 1/1 picks in previous drafts. 

Is there any way to use that pick to get enough capital to trade for Jaylen Brown?

(05-10-2023, 11:44 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: New idea to use the 10th pick for a useful player.  I believe this would solve a problem for each team.

Dallas trades the 10th pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves as well as Javale McGee in exchange for Jaden McDaniels and Nathan Knight.

Fundamentally, the trade is pick 10 for Jaden McDaniels.  I included the McGee and Knight for salary matching purposes.

McDaniels is a combo forward with good size, excellent defense and shot 40% from 3 this year.

He would be an excellent fit as the Mavs power forward.  He is only 22 and likely to improve.  

The Timberwolves are about to have a salary crunch.  Anthony Edwards will receive a max contract extension this summer and Rudy Gobert and KAT are already guaranteed large contracts over the next several years.  I think McDaniels will deserve an expensive extension and retaining Kyle Anderson would be a much less expensive move for Minnesota.  

They could use the 10th pick to draft either Conley's eventual replacement or a cost-controlled forward to replace McDaniels.

McGee is a bad contract but I don't see another way to match salaries.

I believe this would work well for both teams.

(05-10-2023, 11:22 AM)Reunion Mav Wrote: I just want to say I really enjoyed the last few pages of recent trade ideas and thinking. Thanks to all of you in lieu of the like button. It is refreshing to hear good attempts at basketball wisdom. I found several of the ideas to be actual possibilities and not just wishful. I also noticed a tone down of Cuban criticism which while true to an extent had gotten quite tiresome.

Let me add a small tidbit about THJ and others. If we do keep Kyrie, I expect a much larger positive benefit from playing with 2 super stars than we saw this year. We did not get much gravity effect from the stars for whatever reason during this past horrible year. I am very confident this will happen this year. THJ in particular if he is still here, will settle into a comfort zone as the 3rd best player (his view) where he lets the offense come to him and executes the easy play AND focuses on defense. This works as both a starter or bench player because of a clearly superior star on the floor.

Of course this gravity effect applies to numerous players who all have better chance to rise to their new role. This even includes Luka though his adjustments will be a difficult challenge for him which I hope he rises to. That dynamic may well determine our season.
Of course adding the right talent could not be any more important. I just want to add “more than expected internal improvement “ to the list of potential acquisitions.

(05-10-2023, 11:44 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: New idea to use the 10th pick for a useful player.  I believe this would solve a problem for each team.

Dallas trades the 10th pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves as well as Javale McGee in exchange for Jaden McDaniels and Nathan Knight.

Fundamentally, the trade is pick 10 for Jaden McDaniels.  I included the McGee and Knight for salary matching purposes.

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(05-10-2023, 11:44 AM)surfpuckmd Wrote: New idea to use the 10th pick for a useful player.  I believe this would solve a problem for each team.

Dallas trades the 10th pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves as well as Javale McGee in exchange for Jaden McDaniels and Nathan Knight.

Fundamentally, the trade is pick 10 for Jaden McDaniels.  I included the McGee and Knight for salary matching purposes.

McDaniels is a combo forward with good size, excellent defense and shot 40% from 3 this year.

He would be an excellent fit as the Mavs power forward.  He is only 22 and likely to improve.  

The Timberwolves are about to have a salary crunch.  Anthony Edwards will receive a max contract extension this summer and Rudy Gobert and KAT are already guaranteed large contracts over the next several years.  I think McDaniels will deserve an expensive extension and retaining Kyle Anderson would be a much less expensive move for Minnesota.  

They could use the 10th pick to draft either Conley's eventual replacement or a cost-controlled forward to replace McDaniels.

McGee is a bad contract but I don't see another way to match salaries.

I believe this would work well for both teams.

(05-10-2023, 03:21 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I wonder if Jarrett Allen is available.  CLE was exposed with Allen and Mobley on the court at the same time.

(05-10-2023, 03:46 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I´m sure they are thinking let´s destroy our 51 wins starting five with an average age of 24 for some of the trash on that asset-starved lottery team. 

And the Wolves aren´t trading #10 for McDaniels either. They pissed away all their assets for Gobert, but drew the line at McDaniels, cause his upside is Jaylen Brown. 3rd season stats are virtually identical.

There are no quick fixes, especially not for a front office that has proven to be bottom five in the league over the last decade.

(05-10-2023, 08:41 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Well, Mobley isn't going anywhere, but in 2023 you can't have two bigs on the court at the same time if you want to go far.

(05-10-2023, 07:37 PM)Jakeospikez Wrote: If the Cavs are looking to get away from that double big man lineup Jarrett Allen could be a great target if they were interested in a deal based around the 10th pick. Also had interest in THJ so.. ? THJ recovered some value after his injury so that's good at least.

Mavs do probably need to take some risks on distressed assets that they think they can recover. Ayton might be too risky though. I can see the idea that he is not trying at all because he hates the franchise and won't put forth any effort until he's moved, but still that contract makes it tough to get good value. At least this regime has shown they can rebuild assets like they did with Dinwiddie even though that KP deal sucked.

Mavs road to recovery really comes down to lottery balls. If they can get a top 4 pick they should have lots of options and could probably easily fill out the roster. 10th can be worked with. Drop to 11th+ and they're pretty screwed. Mavs have never moved up in the lottery, now would be a great time for that to change.

(05-10-2023, 10:51 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: 1.  Something around THJ/10th for J. Allen
2.  Something around Kyrie for Jrue/G. Allen
3.  Resign Wood

Point - Luka
Guard - Jrue
Guard - Green
Forward - Wood
Center - J. Allen
Bench - Hardy, Bullock, G. Allen, Maxi, Powell, Morris, Justin Holliday, Bertans