(11-15-2023, 08:31 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Given Luka's young age, I suspect there will be era's within his tenure here (like the Finley/Nash era of Dirk's career).  I like that Vuc is 3 years which matches Kyrie and is out of the way before you have to extend Lively.  Maybe the next few years you have vets like Irving, Vucevic and THJ in your top 8 while you let the kids season some more.

We have some data on Vucevic and DJJ playing together (D-Rating of 109 last year and 108.5 the season before).  Whether that is a bench tandem or a starting tandem (short term), there probably are ways to get the Vuc positives without being just awful defensively.

(11-15-2023, 10:26 AM)omahen Wrote: I wouldn't spend any asset on Vucevic and it will certainly take asset(s) to get him. He is not a long term solution.

(11-15-2023, 10:46 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: 31 year old THJ on a 34/2 deal averaging 18 PPG in 28 minutes shooting 43/38/100 with bad defense is a net negative asset.
33 year old Vucevic on a 60/3 deal averaging 18 PPG in 35 minutes shooting 49/32/76 with bad defense is a net positive asset.

I´m not sure I follow that logic.

Realistically you can point to multiple contending teams that would like to add a DeRozan or Lavine.

Which teams would like to add Vucevic?

Nets for expiring Dinwiddie is an outside possibility I guess.
 
Clippers and Suns sure would like another big but they have absolutely nothing in assets to match his salary that doesn´t smell like a dumpster. 

Kuminga/Looney is a pretty good one. OMG can we get Looney out of this. That is the real pipedream here.

(11-15-2023, 03:09 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Confirmed.  Duffy client and fellow Balkan Boy, Nicola Vucevic coming to Dallas.

Quote:Stein: There are likewise no firm indications yet in circulation that the two-way Bull who would surely generate lots of interest leaguewide — Alex Caruso — will be made available between now and the Feb. 8 trade deadline. Caruso is in the third season of a four-year, $37 million deal.
It appears more feasible that teams such as Miami or the Los Angeles Lakers, rather than Philadelphia, could emerge with substantive trade interest in LaVine since those teams have a clearer need for an offensive infusion.
Dallas is another team that has been linked with LaVine in the past — particularly in advance of LaVine's free agent summer following the 2021-22 season. One league source, however, indicated Tuesday that the Mavericks are unlikely to pursue him.

(11-15-2023, 01:49 PM)SleepingHero Wrote:

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Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania)
Daniel Theis and the Indiana Pacers are in serious talks on a contract buyout, which would clear the way for the veteran big man to sign with the Los Angeles Clippers pending a physical exam, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Clippers frontcourt depth could be arriving soon.

(11-15-2023, 04:29 PM)Knutsen Wrote: That sucks. Theis would fit really well with us. He played a vital part in Germany winning the world cup.

(11-15-2023, 04:29 PM)Knutsen Wrote: That sucks. Theis would fit really well with us. He played a vital part in Germany winning the world cup.

(11-15-2023, 06:02 PM)Mike lorenzo Wrote: Vuc fits Grizzlies quite well alongside JJJ, in the Warriors or even back to the Magic... now that Carter is injured and they also love him... too great to bring him in a role, THJ that would be ideal... in the boat of only spending assets for two-way players... I don't think J.Collins (to give examples) costs more than Vuc (yes I know, it's not Gobert) but he is athletic, averages 8 rebounds and is shooting the 3 over 40%

(11-15-2023, 08:59 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: When i think about adding a Center, i think about no more Powell. That is a positive within itself.

So while Vuc may not fit the age or defensive profile we want. He's better than Dwight Powell. Lively may start all season, but he will not stay on the court long. Especially come playoff time. He has issues with fouling, even in college. The refs seem to hate this guy.  We're going to need someone productive for those non-Lively minutes.

(11-15-2023, 09:39 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: Rather than Powell, Holmes or Vucevic... I would rather have that athletic Center from the Knicks, Jericho Sims, as a backup to Lively. He is very raw offensively but looks like an excellent defender everywhere on the court, and rebounds very well offensively and defensively. Also seems good as the roll man. With Lively, we have seen how it helps both Luka and Kyrie to have a good lob target.

In other words, Sims will give the Mavs another Lively to use.

If Lively and Sims can stay out of foul trouble for long enough to split 36-40 mins at C, with Kleber getting the remaining mins at C (and more mins at PF), I think that would be very good.