(10-27-2023, 02:03 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I love how the pendulum has swung so far on the other side that if Lively has a bad game we're going to be non stop doom and gloom.

I was a big detractor of Lively. I'm now an optimist and think there is a place for him in the league. But I think it'll be unfair to continue to expect him to play like he did against San Antonio. If he did then I eat the most massive of crow and declare the Mavs center problems are solved. But I don't think we're there yet.

(10-27-2023, 02:03 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I love how the pendulum has swung so far on the other side that if Lively has a bad game we're going to be non stop doom and gloom.

I was a big detractor of Lively. I'm now an optimist and think there is a place for him in the league. But I think it'll be unfair to continue to expect him to play like he did against San Antonio. If he did then I eat the most massive of crow and declare the Mavs center problems are solved. But I don't think we're there yet.

(10-27-2023, 02:03 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I love how the pendulum has swung so far on the other side that if Lively has a bad game we're going to be non stop doom and gloom.

I was a big detractor of Lively. I'm now an optimist and think there is a place for him in the league. But I think it'll be unfair to continue to expect him to play like he did against San Antonio. If he did then I eat the most massive of crow and declare the Mavs center problems are solved. But I don't think we're there yet.

(10-27-2023, 02:19 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Don't worry - our center problems aren't solved regardless, because even if he plays 81 more games like that plus playoffs, he can't play 48 mpg, and there's no one else right now. 

I'd like to hope that Holmes is just in a temporary doghouse right now instead of cooked to a crisp, but we'll see. The game chat will feature plenty of Dwight Powell head-banging.

(10-27-2023, 02:19 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Don't worry - our center problems aren't solved regardless, because even if he plays 81 more games like that plus playoffs, he can't play 48 mpg, and there's no one else right now. 

I'd like to hope that Holmes is just in a temporary doghouse right now instead of cooked to a crisp, but we'll see. The game chat will feature plenty of Dwight Powell head-banging.

(10-28-2023, 08:23 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Bulls about to waste a Zach Lavine 50pt game. He has 51 and are down 16 with 2 minutes to go.

(10-28-2023, 08:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: So the Bulls almost have to blow it up right? Between the players only meeting after the first game and now this wasted 50 piece by Lavine and getting blown out, the Bulls are done right?

(10-28-2023, 09:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Sure, but the national narrative has been that they were there already, even before last year. They keep doubling down.

(10-29-2023, 03:28 AM)omahen Wrote: DeRozan has not resigned and can walk in the summer, so they will probably be forced to sell him at TDL at the latest. Once this "domino" falls, it will make little sense to continue the ride and overall sale might happen. 

(10-29-2023, 08:05 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’ve been thinking about DeRozan.  He’s an obvious TDL trade candidate because of the UFA status this summer playing for a team going nowhere.  That is the kind of move Dallas has made in the past.  The interesting thing is Dallas and Chicago can both stay below the tax if the deal is THJ/Holmes or THJ/Maxi.  Neither is ideal for Chicago since they aren’t expiring.  The cost of such a trade is usually a protected first, but our first available pick is fairly distant.

Even if Chicago was willing to do that and we made the best offer, is DeRozan really what we need?  He’d certainly add to our scoring punch, but we seem quite capable of scoring right now.  He doesn’t shoot 3’s well.  But, my main concern is it takes a special kind of star to play with Luka.  Capable in the moments said star is needed, but ego-less in those moments Luka wants to dominate.  Irving appears to be pretty good at this, but what does that dynamic look like if we add a third score-first type?  I think adding a bigger name will be tricky not only from an asset standpoint, but from a fit standpoint.

(10-29-2023, 08:05 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’ve been thinking about DeRozan.  He’s an obvious TDL trade candidate because of the UFA status this summer playing for a team going nowhere.  That is the kind of move Dallas has made in the past.  The interesting thing is Dallas and Chicago can both stay below the tax if the deal is THJ/Holmes or THJ/Maxi.  Neither is ideal for Chicago since they aren’t expiring.  The cost of such a trade is usually a protected first, but our first available pick is fairly distant.

Even if Chicago was willing to do that and we made the best offer, is DeRozan really what we need?  He’d certainly add to our scoring punch, but we seem quite capable of scoring right now.  He doesn’t shoot 3’s well.  But, my main concern is it takes a special kind of star to play with Luka.  Capable in the moments said star is needed, but ego-less in those moments Luka wants to dominate.  Irving appears to be pretty good at this, but what does that dynamic look like if we add a third score-first type?  I think adding a bigger name will be tricky not only from an asset standpoint, but from a fit standpoint.

(10-29-2023, 08:36 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Only one player on the Bulls roster that I would want on the Mavs. Caruso. Perfect low usage glue guy for any contender. Just don't see a realistic trade package that doesn't include the 27 1st.

(10-29-2023, 01:33 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: If Exum doesn't exactly work out, Caruso is perfect for this team.  Probably platooning with Green for 6th man.  Huge THJ/Exum upgrade.

(10-29-2023, 08:36 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Only one player on the Bulls roster that I would want on the Mavs. Caruso. Perfect low usage glue guy for any contender. Just don't see a realistic trade package that doesn't include the 27 1st.