(10-23-2023, 04:06 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Define star? Is the best defender in the league a star? Cause I think that is where McDaniels is headed, if he´s not already. Plus he shot 52/40/74 from the field last year while averaging 12/4, which is slightly superior to what Jaylen Brown did in his 3rd year. Made the huge leap in year 4. 

This deal a total no brainer for Minnesota. 

Only headache is their cap thanks to the massive overpays of KAT and Gobert. If I´m building that team, it´s around Edwards/McDaniels first. KAT/Gobert are the tradebait.  

If Gobert and especially KAT could play as well as they talk, they´d easily be a legit contender, cause they have everything else on paper.

(10-23-2023, 04:06 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Define star? Is the best defender in the league a star? Cause I think that is where McDaniels is headed, if he´s not already. Plus he shot 52/40/74 from the field last year while averaging 12/4, which is slightly superior to what Jaylen Brown did in his 3rd year. Made the huge leap in year 4. 

This deal a total no brainer for Minnesota. 

Only headache is their cap thanks to the massive overpays of KAT and Gobert. If I´m building that team, it´s around Edwards/McDaniels first. KAT/Gobert are the tradebait.  

If Gobert and especially KAT could play as well as they talk, they´d easily be a legit contender, cause they have everything else on paper.

(10-24-2023, 02:38 AM)omahen Wrote: Since summer is over and TDL is approaching quickly, why not start with some fantasy trading To be honest, Mavs best move at this point is probably to save assets until summer and use (up to) three picks they will have available for a legit third option. The alternative would be to use the 2027 for a third guy on expiring deal (like OG) and hope he resigns in the summer. But, it would be just too boring to wait all season, so lets go in completely different direction.

Quickley didn't reach an extension agreement with NY and I doubt he is in their long-term plans. But, he could be a perfect 6th man for Mavs and potential starter after Kyrie leaves. Can create, shoot, play on and off the ball and plays defense. NY is on a hunt for a star, but perhaps none is available at TDL. At that point it might make more sense for them to trade Quickley for some assets that they could use as their capital in the summer.

NY: THJ, Mavs 2027 pick unprotected
Dal: Fournier, Quickley, and one meh pick from Knicks (perhaps Mavs 2024 pick, if Mavs have a decent season)

Fournier has a TO next season so Mavs can cut him and instead resign Quickley in the summer, keeeping salaries in the first apron range.

(10-24-2023, 02:38 AM)omahen Wrote: Since summer is over and TDL is approaching quickly, why not start with some fantasy trading To be honest, Mavs best move at this point is probably to save assets until summer and use (up to) three picks they will have available for a legit third option. The alternative would be to use the 2027 for a third guy on expiring deal (like OG) and hope he resigns in the summer. But, it would be just too boring to wait all season, so lets go in completely different direction.

Quickley didn't reach an extension agreement with NY and I doubt he is in their long-term plans. But, he could be a perfect 6th man for Mavs and potential starter after Kyrie leaves. Can create, shoot, play on and off the ball and plays defense. NY is on a hunt for a star, but perhaps none is available at TDL. At that point it might make more sense for them to trade Quickley for some assets that they could use as their capital in the summer.

NY: THJ, Mavs 2027 pick unprotected
Dal: Fournier, Quickley, and one meh pick from Knicks (perhaps Mavs 2024 pick, if Mavs have a decent season)

Fournier has a TO next season so Mavs can cut him and instead resign Quickley in the summer, keeeping salaries in the first apron range.

(10-24-2023, 11:23 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Love the thinking behind replacing THJ with Fournier just to cut him to make room to re-sign Quickly. That part is inspired, and IQ is a player I'd want. 

But, I continue to be amazed at how that UNPROTECTED '27 is burning a hole in people's pockets around here. To me, that's worth more than any asset the Mavs have other than Luka. I'm not trading it for a backup PG, sorry. I just can't get there.

(10-24-2023, 12:47 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: IQ would immediately be the third best player on our team.  He is great defensively and pretty good on offense.  He can play either guard spot and just turned 24.  Coincidentally, IQ has a very high basketball IQ.  He has also thrived under one the league's toughest coaches.  I think he's worth the 2027 1st as well as Jaden Hardy.  I still think the Knicks would say no to that deal.  I believe that trade would give us one of the 8 best rosters in the NBA if it happened.  Hell yes to Immanuel Quickley.

(10-24-2023, 01:38 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Really, my issue is about sending out the last great asset the team has

(10-24-2023, 01:38 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: THIRD ball-handler. Because that's what IQ would be HERE

(10-24-2023, 05:25 PM)omahen Wrote: 2027 is far from last great trade asset this team has. As soon as in the summer, Mavs will have another 2 FRP to trade, all their guys on rookie deals and Green. Plenty of assets going forward.

(10-26-2023, 03:26 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: The "trading the 2027 first for Capela/Ayton/Turner/Allen/Claxton" argument has been settled after one measly game.

(10-26-2023, 03:42 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Yup.  I was thrilled.  The kid is a stud.

(10-26-2023, 04:25 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Ate your crow yet?