(10-02-2023, 09:53 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: That's completely not true.  He wasn't an NBA starter-level player until his full year in DET.  They signed Grant.  HOU signed him for 3 years.  HOU traded him for a FRP.

This was the only failed stop for Wood (as an NBA starter-level player).  He's going to ball out in LAL.  Wood/AD is an amazing combo.

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Had they not matched Thybulle, J.Green would be appealing to them.  I just don't know what we have that they'd want, other than the 27FRP.

(10-03-2023, 04:21 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: Who says no?

Norm Powell to Mavs
THJ to Miami
Brogdon to Clippers
D. Robinson to Portland

(Perhaps, the Clippers and/or Miami send something to Portland)

(10-03-2023, 04:21 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: Who says no?

Norm Powell to Mavs
THJ to Miami
Brogdon to Clippers
D. Robinson to Portland

(Perhaps, the Clippers and/or Miami send something to Portland)

(10-03-2023, 04:21 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: Who says no?

Norm Powell to Mavs
THJ to Miami
Brogdon to Clippers
D. Robinson to Portland

(Perhaps, the Clippers and/or Miami send something to Portland)

(10-03-2023, 04:21 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: Who says no?

Norm Powell to Mavs
THJ to Miami
Brogdon to Clippers
D. Robinson to Portland

(Perhaps, the Clippers and/or Miami send something to Portland)

(10-03-2023, 12:54 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I think Mia will be after Harden, and they could be the highest bidder. After striking out twice with Por, they have to be getting antsy about improving upon the players they lost, right?

(10-03-2023, 12:46 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I think the THJ to MIA, Brogdon to LAC parts work.  I actually like MIA as a 3rd team in a THJ trade.

(10-03-2023, 12:54 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I think Mia will be after Harden, and they could be the highest bidder. After striking out twice with Por, they have to be getting antsy about improving upon the players they lost, right?

(10-03-2023, 01:17 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Man, I might be wrong, but I'm honestly not sure anyone wants Harden. The problem is that you're signing up to have to pay Harden. FFFFFFFF that.

(10-03-2023, 01:13 PM)omahen Wrote: Perhaps, but several question marks. Harden doesn't fit the Heat culture, like at all. Huge danger for immediate troubles. I don't think Miami would give Herro for Harden, so it would have to be Lowry. Sure available Lowry is better than non available Harden for Philly, but is Lowry and some draft assets really enough for Philly? They keep their flexibility next year, but are probably out of contention this season. Perhaps best bet for Philly is a gamble that some star wants out till TDL and make a move then. They will have Maxey as a huge asset to be included in a deal for the right player. I think they can always move Harden for expirings and some draft capital, if no star gets available.

(10-03-2023, 01:13 PM)omahen Wrote: Perhaps, but several question marks. Harden doesn't fit the Heat culture, like at all. Huge danger for immediate troubles. I don't think Miami would give Herro for Harden, so it would have to be Lowry. Sure available Lowry is better than non available Harden for Philly, but is Lowry and some draft assets really enough for Philly? They keep their flexibility next year, but are probably out of contention this season. Perhaps best bet for Philly is a gamble that some star wants out till TDL and make a move then. They will have Maxey as a huge asset to be included in a deal for the right player. I think they can always move Harden for expirings and some draft capital, if no star gets available.

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Clippers rejected Brogdon trade for lesser players than Powell...

(10-03-2023, 01:52 PM)omahen Wrote: Vecenie thinks Brogdon is valued around 3 to 4 SRP and more or less "dead" salary. Thinks Houston is most logical destination (trading Porter, Tate and 4 second rounders). I guess the article was written before Houston chose Bullock. Clippers, Orlando, Philly and Toronto are also mentioned as most likely destinations.

https://theathletic.com/4920228/2023/10/03/malcolm-brogdon-trade-destinations-blazers-rockets-magic/

(10-03-2023, 02:24 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Really?  Who?  Brogdon to LAC makes all the sense in the world.  I don't know what the cost would be, but they need a starting PG, with few available.

(10-03-2023, 02:24 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote:

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That's a hard trade to value, given KPJ is such a negative asset.  I still say Holmes/? for KPJ/Eason is ideal for both.

(10-03-2023, 01:52 PM)omahen Wrote: Vecenie thinks Brogdon is valued around 3 to 4 SRP and more or less "dead" salary. Thinks Houston is most logical destination (trading Porter, Tate and 4 second rounders). I guess the article was written before Houston chose Bullock. Clippers, Orlando, Philly and Toronto are also mentioned as most likely destinations.

https://theathletic.com/4920228/2023/10/03/malcolm-brogdon-trade-destinations-blazers-rockets-magic/

(10-03-2023, 01:52 PM)omahen Wrote: Vecenie thinks Brogdon is valued around 3 to 4 SRP and more or less "dead" salary. Thinks Houston is most logical destination (trading Porter, Tate and 4 second rounders). I guess the article was written before Houston chose Bullock. Clippers, Orlando, Philly and Toronto are also mentioned as most likely destinations.

https://theathletic.com/4920228/2023/10/03/malcolm-brogdon-trade-destinations-blazers-rockets-magic/

(10-03-2023, 10:20 AM)mvossman Wrote: The Mavs?  Is Norman Powell really an upgrade over Timmy?  They are roughly the same animal.  He also has a longer worse contract.

(10-04-2023, 01:25 AM)RGP1981 Wrote: Not the same... Powell is a better, more tenacious defender and is a better play-maker. He also has a better 3PT%, despite THJ having more of a reputation as a 3PT shooter. THJ is of course slightly taller. There are teams who might believe THJ better fits what they need at SG.

I think it would be silly to keep THJ if there's a chance to trade him for Powell, simply because Powell's contract is 1-year longer. I think the Mavs are in win-now or win-next-year mode, or else Luka is out of here.

(10-04-2023, 10:26 AM)mvossman Wrote: Is Norman a better playmaker?  Timmy averages more assists and fewer turnovers per game.

They are maybe a wash from 3.  Norman has a little better percentage, but Timmy shoots more volume.

Is Norman a better defender than Timmy?  His on/off the last two seasons has been terrible.  The advanced stats say he is worse than Timmy.  

They are very similar players who fit the same profile, shooters with suspect defense.  Its a profile this team does not really need, which is why they have been trying to trade away Tim for two years.  Why would we swap Tim for a similar player who wont make a significantly better impact on the court (recent evidence would suggest it will be worse) and will be a harder contract to get rid of?