(09-19-2023, 10:18 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: IMO you only trade for KPJ to steal Eason.  

Domestic abuse is a tricky subject.  You have situations like Kidd's where it doesn't repeat itself.  You have situations like Holmes' where it was bullshit.  I would say 99% of the time you have both people crazy, high, and/or drunk.  IMO generally there are no pure victims, no pure attackers.  Strangling a woman, however, is a whole other beast.  In no way, shape, or form is there a situation where that's remotely acceptable.  If this is true, I hope KPJ never bounces another ball in the NBA.

(09-19-2023, 01:15 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Miles Bridges
Bernard King
Darren Collison
Ron Artest
Jason Kidd
Rasheed Wallace
Dennis Rodman

And of course:
Kobe
Richard Jefferson
Draymond Green

And
Dwight Gooden
Bobby Cox
Randy Moss
Chad Johnson
Jim Brown
Manny Ramirez
Darryl Strawberry
Jose Canseco
Al Unser, Jr.

(09-19-2023, 03:29 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Re: Eason, I completely forgot they drafted a Thompson twin and Whitmore this year. Ya, Eason is buried on that roster.

Holmes for KPJ/Eason works under the CBA. Instead of draft capital, HOU can throw in Eason for us to take KPJ off their hands...
KPJ is 3yrs, $47.4m total
Eason is 3yrs, $12.7m total
Total = 3yrs, 60.1m total
Holmes 2yrs, $24.8m total
So, Eason costs 3yrs, $11.8m each, $35.3m total

HOU saves $35.3m. DAL gets Eason at $11.8m for 3 years and controls his contract. We get rid of

Luka, Exum
Kyrie, J.Green, Hardy, Curry
Eason, DJJ, OMax
G.Williams, Maxi
Powell, Lively

(09-19-2023, 03:49 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Only issue I have with this trade is the rumor says Hou wants a vet SG. THJ is for sure the right player outgoing. You don’t even have THJ in your final roster (or Morris, but he’s easily waived). It’s a lot less efficient shooting with the trades I proposed, but it’s a highly defensive team.

(09-19-2023, 03:47 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Sad but true.  Out of that list though, only Miles Bridges and KPJ have been accused of choking, right?  There's a reason every state has made that a felony.  It's not just a pushing each other around, etc.

What did Richard Jefferson do?

(09-19-2023, 07:59 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/08/sports/basketball/08jefferson.html

(09-19-2023, 10:57 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: From the Charlotte Hornets fan site, referring to Kelly Oubre.  Reminds me a lot of Christian Wood talk.

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Re: Little Swaggy: The Kelly Oubre Jr Thread
Post#393 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Yesterday 7:05 pm

fatlever wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Whens the last time a HEALTHY guy, IN HIS PRIME, who averaged 20 a game FOR A FULL SEASON, got the vet minimum


that's a great trivia question? i added some words to really drive it home.
can anyone get us an answer?

I highly doubt it's ever happened in the history of the league, barring injury or someone who did something horrible and flat out ended his career.

Terrible combo of cap space drying up at record speed, teams being uber-conscious of efficiency, and the Hornets being an absolute dumpster fire.

Also I truly believe the Hornets have been viewed as completely toxic around the league for multiple seasons, and teams want nothing to do with our cast-offs.

Quote:some people made videos and tweets about [the twitter account], he only ever talks about buddy and switched fanbases when he got traded. never tweeted during a game in which he was playing in and you'd expect a player stan to live tweet, and 242 is the bahamian area code which is where he's from

(09-20-2023, 11:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @ShamsCharania
After contract extension negotiations stalled out, Buddy Hield and the Indiana Pacers have started dialogue to work on finding a potential trade, league sources say.

Story at
@TheAthletic

(09-19-2023, 09:43 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Think of KPJ like Holmes.  Sometimes you take on distressed assets to get steals (OMax).

(09-21-2023, 07:08 AM)omahen Wrote: I think Hield fits same way as THJ. He doesn't  

You can't have a high minutes guy that is not an above average defender next to Luka and Kyrie. The fact that Hield is a better shooter doesn't solve the Mavs main issue, which is defense. Offense was great last season.

(09-21-2023, 09:42 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'm not sure I'd do this, either, but if we want to talk about acquiring currently disgruntled perimeter players, I'd think the more useful target might be Malcolm Brogdon.

(09-21-2023, 11:07 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Brogdon was the PG in IND before they traded him. He's more than a perimeter player, he's the Dinwiddie to Kyrie's Brunson. I would be very on board to getting him as a win now piece, especially if we were to get Capela as well, getting both without giving up too much youth would be amazing for our team's immediate needs. Keeping most if not all the youngsters keeps our future bright. Hardy and THJ for Brogdon? Holmes, Maxi and 27 for Cap (27 can go for Brogdon and Hardy for Cap either way) and we haven't sacrificed a ton of the future to compete now AND in the future.

Luka/Brogdon
Kyrie/Brogdon
Green/OMax
GWill/OMax
Cap/Lively or Powell

That's a stout 8 man playoff rotation as long as the rooks show out. Has depth in the G with Curry and Exum waiting for injury. Good depth at C. Could use another bigger wing who can hit outside shots (better than Morris) to help cover the depth needed when we go with GWill or OMax at C in the later rounds. That might have to be next offseason's target with the 2 picks we'll have (Eason after a season of being disgruntled sitting on the bench?). Man I really hope Green takes that needed step up this year!

(09-21-2023, 11:07 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Brogdon was the PG in IND before they traded him. He's more than a perimeter player, he's the Dinwiddie to Kyrie's Brunson. I would be very on board to getting him as a win now piece, especially if we were to get Capela as well, getting both without giving up too much youth would be amazing for our team's immediate needs. Keeping most if not all the youngsters keeps our future bright. Hardy and THJ for Brogdon? Holmes, Maxi and 27 for Cap (27 can go for Brogdon and Hardy for Cap either way) and we haven't sacrificed a ton of the future to compete now AND in the future.

Luka/Brogdon
Kyrie/Brogdon
Green/OMax
GWill/OMax
Cap/Lively or Powell

That's a stout 8 man playoff rotation as long as the rooks show out. Has depth in the G with Curry and Exum waiting for injury. Good depth at C. Could use another bigger wing who can hit outside shots (better than Morris) to help cover the depth needed when we go with GWill or OMax at C in the later rounds. That might have to be next offseason's target with the 2 picks we'll have (Eason after a season of being disgruntled sitting on the bench?). Man I really hope Green takes that needed step up this year!