(09-07-2023, 03:41 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I mean, we ourselves throw shade at Kidd, why is him finally retaliating such a problem for people? Also, saying “after what Dallas did”, is not saying much at all. Deserved slight shade is absolutely acceptable.

(09-07-2023, 11:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Because a dude whose reputation of being a locker room cancer and selfish attitude living right up to his reputation shows he hasn't learned (or even begun to understand) the reasons why literally no team wanted to offer more than a minimum contract this summer despite him being 1 of very few bigs in the league to average 20/10 as a starter on 52/36/77.  If he did, his first public appearance wouldn't be throwing shade at his former team for not giving him an "opportunity", which to me screams a level of delusion its on the verge of comedy. Especially because the team he's heading to he's most certainly going to average less than 26mpg than he had here, and will be a bench player behind at least 3 guys. 

And while we can argue over and over again the merits of whether or not Wood ever actually got a fair shot here, 2 things can be true at once:

1) Wood had all the opportunity in Dallas for a team starved for big man talent. But he didn't do the things that was asked of him to get on the court.  
2) Jason Kidd made a menial effort in trying to make Wood work here going so far as to significantly reduce his role when it became apparent he couldn't boost his trade value halfway into the season. 


The writing has been on the wall. Time and again a team has elected to not bring Wood back despite his flashes of talent, why do we think that is?

(09-07-2023, 11:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Because a dude whose reputation of being a locker room cancer and selfish attitude living right up to his reputation shows he hasn't learned (or even begun to understand) the reasons why literally no team wanted to offer more than a minimum contract this summer despite him being 1 of very few bigs in the league to average 20/10 as a starter on 52/36/77.  If he did, his first public appearance wouldn't be throwing shade at his former team for not giving him an "opportunity", which to me screams a level of delusion its on the verge of comedy. Especially because the team he's heading to he's most certainly going to average less than 26mpg than he had here, and will be a bench player behind at least 3 guys. 

And while we can argue over and over again the merits of whether or not Wood ever actually got a fair shot here, 2 things can be true at once:

1) Wood had all the opportunity in Dallas for a team starved for big man talent. But he didn't do the things that was asked of him to get on the court.  
2) Jason Kidd made a menial effort in trying to make Wood work here going so far as to significantly reduce his role when it became apparent he couldn't boost his trade value halfway into the season. 


The writing has been on the wall. Time and again a team has elected to not bring Wood back despite his flashes of talent, why do we think that is?

(09-08-2023, 01:15 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: Where were you at during the regular season while I was 1v1000 in the trenches defending Wood, Ghost of Podkolzin? I could have used your assistance.

(09-08-2023, 01:22 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: You weren’t the only one in that. I mean, even KL wasn’t one of the against guys. Not exactly a for guy either.

(09-08-2023, 01:44 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: Perhaps I exaggerated a bit for dramatic effect...

My final statement on Christian Wood for a while: I don't care what anyone says. If Kidd would have played a Luka - Kyrie - Green - Maxi - Wood lineup big minutes, they would have made the playoffs. That being said, with what they were able to do this offseason, I am glad that they did not make the playoffs. 

At the time I was all for that 17m/yr extension. I didn't believe the front office could do so well with limited assets and I didn't know about the new CBA. I'm glad they let him go now that I see what we have.

Long story short, I am probably the biggest believer in the current roster here. To the point where I need to get Tim Hardaway out of here for nothing if they have to in order to make room for other players. I wish Wood well and think he is in a great situation in LA.

(09-08-2023, 02:50 AM)Jym Wrote: Yeah I absolutely hated the way that Kidd handled the entire situation but like you I'm glad we didn't end up paying Wood big money
Now we just have to worry about who will be Kidd's newest enemy. Will he have some weird, irrational hatred of Grant Williams? That would suck

(09-08-2023, 03:02 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Quotes of bringing Lively along slowly have already started.

(09-08-2023, 01:14 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: You’re changing the argument. I don’t really care much about Wood anymore now that he isn’t a Mav, but making things up to make the breakup more than it is is not right. I agree with Wood not being a fit here and what seems to be a behind the scenes distraction. After the fact it’s quite evident after all the idiotic shade the coach threw all season and the Owner after he left (which is his MO).

I believe it’s also true that Houston didn’t really want him back (the reasons aren’t all that clear because their owner and coach don’t air out their dirty laundry like ours do, I mean, if they didn’t get a FRP offer would they have still had him last season?) and we know Dallas for sure doesn’t. Other than that, there is very little to suggest the reasons for his “bouncing around the league”, your guess isn’t better than anyone else’s. No worse than a witch hunt to make you feel better about something.

His quote finally returning the shade at Kidd after being the butt all season is perfectly acceptable. There was no need to defend Kidd in any way.

(09-07-2023, 05:36 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: That calculated hit job he and his agent tried against the Mavs midseason through the Mavs Outsider Podcast (indicative that they couldn't get that through more legitimate channels, isn't it?) probably did as much to tank his value this summer as anything the Mavs might/might not be saying about him on the gossip network. 

(09-08-2023, 08:52 AM)Jmaciscool Wrote: I don't recall this, what did he and his agent say about the Mavs?

(09-08-2023, 08:55 AM)omahen Wrote: Around the TDL some guys at some internet show quoted his agent (saying his agent told them) that Dallas is intentionally tanking his value to resign him cheaply in the summer.

(09-07-2023, 05:42 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: On another subject, am I to understand that all the dates have passed, and that pretty much anyone involved in our numerous trade fantasies over the past month are now free to be moved?

If so, it seems like this is the team going into training camp, nay?

And if THAT's so, I wish someone would explain to me why McGee was stretch waived.

(09-07-2023, 10:46 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Do I need to remind all that Dallas...

1.  Gave up a FRP for Wood.
2.  Clearly there was a disconnect between the FO and Wood on how/if Kidd would use him.
3.  Cuban praised Wood midseason talking about how valuable he was.
4.  Wood goes on a 17 game starting tear, averaging 20/10/2.5.
5.  Kidd inexplicably benches him, as he's prone to do to players he doesn't like.
6.  Wood ends the year with limited minutes and an even more limited role, even though all centers are exposed as spares.
7.  Dallas lets Wood walk with no compensation.  Bye bye FRP.

That is what is called asset malpractice.  If you believe Wood is entirely to blame, then the FO didn't do their research.  Regardless, there was a complete disconnect between the FO and Kidd.  If you think Kidd is to blame (as this is his pattern), than it's again on the FO for hiring Kidd.  Mark my words.  Kidd's tenure in Dallas will not end well.

Quote:That is what is called asset malpractice.

(09-08-2023, 08:58 AM)Jmaciscool Wrote: Ah, thanks, I completely missed that apparently.

(09-08-2023, 11:18 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, and Omahen's version is the mild one. His agent was (apparently) making claims that the player was lied to, intentionally smeared aggressively around the league...all sorts of stuff.

(09-08-2023, 01:15 AM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: Where were you at during the regular season while I was 1v1000 in the trenches defending Wood, Ghost of Podkolzin? I could have used your assistance.