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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - From Dirk to Luka - 08-22-2023
I get why people are high on Hardy's potential, but he looked like a high volume launch it anytime from anywhere and pray it goes in guy in the summer league. It's a small sample size, but 35% FG and 27% 3P in the summer league...He has a lot to work on.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Ghost of Podkolzin - 08-22-2023
(08-21-2023, 09:54 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I also think Hardy can become a star player. I hate the Jordan Clarkson and Jordan Poole comparisons. I think Hardy will be better than either. I think he has the potential to become an all-star and I think he'll be closer to Bradley Beal than Jordan Clarkson.
Not sure he'll be able to score that many points on the Mavericks though. I can imagine us trading him for an elite defensive player. I'm not sure the Mavericks would be able to afford his next contract should he become a 22 ppg scorer.
I hope you're right, but Beal was a dog on defense when he was Hardy young. With Hardy it's that "he has the physical tools to be great on defense" thing, but how often does that develop? Some, like Wiggins develop into into great defenders, but I don't think it's incredibly common.
Unless Hardy can be at least an adequate defender, I don't see him as anything more than a 6th man on this team.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 08:48 AM)From Dirk to Luka Wrote: I get why people are high on Hardy's potential, but he looked like a high volume launch it anytime from anywhere and pray it goes in guy in the summer league. It's a small sample size, but 35% FG and 27% 3P in the summer league...He has a lot to work on.
We also have a nice 11 game sample from the g league from last year where he shot 55/49/88 on nearly 9 threes a game.
He was definitely forcing some things in the summer league, didn't look comfortable being the leader which luckily he won't really be asked to do this season.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Ghost of Podkolzin - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 10:35 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: We also have a nice 11 game sample from the g league from last year where he shot 55/49/88 on nearly 9 threes a game.
He was definitely forcing some things in the summer league, didn't look comfortable being the leader which luckily he won't really be asked to do this season.
Ya, Summer League is sometimes closer to AAU than NBA. I don't worry about Hardy's ability to shoot and score at an efficient clip, just his defense. He made THJ look like Jrue Holiday last year.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - mvossman - 08-22-2023
(08-21-2023, 09:54 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I also think Hardy can become a star player. I hate the Jordan Clarkson and Jordan Poole comparisons. I think Hardy will be better than either. I think he has the potential to become an all-star and I think he'll be closer to Bradley Beal than Jordan Clarkson.
Not sure he'll be able to score that many points on the Mavericks though. I can imagine us trading him for an elite defensive player. I'm not sure the Mavericks would be able to afford his next contract should he become a 22 ppg scorer.
Clarkson and Poole are elite 6th men. Hardy was a second round pick. If he reaches the level of those guys, it will be a huge win. Beal would be his absolute ceiling, but I would be very satisfied if he turns into an elite 6th man.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Jym - 08-22-2023
Shams Charania
The Dallas Mavericks are planning to stretch-and-waive center JaVale McGee and re-sign F/C Markieff Morris on a deal, sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium. Mavs must execute stretch-and-waive by next week.
Seems like a waste just to give the spot to Morris. They couldn't find a true center with size out there somewhere?
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - KillerLeft - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 02:14 PM)Jym Wrote: Shams Charania
The Dallas Mavericks are planning to stretch-and-waive center JaVale McGee and re-sign F/C Markieff Morris on a deal, sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium. Mavs must execute stretch-and-waive by next week.
Seems like a waste just to give the spot to Morris. They couldn't find a true center with size out there somewhere?
Yeah, I'm not a fan of this at all. They must REALLY want McGee out of that locker room.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - IamDougieFresh - 08-22-2023
Luka - Exum - trade THJ for any PG for my OCD
Kyrie - Hardy - Curry
Green - OMax - DJJ
Batman - Maxi - Morris
Holmes - Lively - Powell
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Ghost of Podkolzin - 08-22-2023
OK, Wood is not officially gone until he signs elsewhere. En Lieu of Morris, what can we offer Wood?
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - WillE - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 02:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, I'm not a fan of this at all. They must REALLY want McGee out of that locker room.How y'all feeling about bringing back Morris? I thought there would be better options then hin out there...
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 02:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, I'm not a fan of this at all. They must REALLY want McGee out of that locker room.
Curious what the number is for Markeiff vs what Garuba will sign for (although Garuba can probably go find a bigger role elsewhere).
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - omahen - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 02:14 PM)Jym Wrote: Shams Charania
The Dallas Mavericks are planning to stretch-and-waive center JaVale McGee and re-sign F/C Markieff Morris on a deal, sources tell @TheAthletic
@Stadium. Mavs must execute stretch-and-waive by next week.
Seems like a waste just to give the spot to Morris. They couldn't find a true center with size out there somewhere?
Not a fan at all. First they are throwing away 12 mil. Ok, there might be things we don't know, but seems like a waste of contract that could be used in a trade at some point. I think best FO are always patient even with mistakes like that.
Than, they top that with signing a guy, who was bad for quite some time and plays same position as this summer star signing, this year first round pick and most recent FA vet min. I just don't get this signing, seems like a total waste of roster spot and money.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - KillerLeft - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 02:38 PM)WillE Wrote: How y'all feeling about bringing back Morris? I thought there would be better options then hin out there...
Not thrilled about him, specifically, but it's interesting that signs continue to support a versatile, switchable bigs approach. Morris, in theory, can do some of the same things as a 4/5 that Williams, Jones and O-Max can do.
I definitely don't like the idea of Morris getting even one minute that could go to O-Max, and I hardly think his addition is worth the cap clogging decision to stretch waive McGee. In fact, despite being possibly the most vocal in my opposition of the McGee signing, originally, I feel like he might fill more of an occasional need here this season than Morris.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Jym - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 02:55 PM)omahen Wrote: Not a fan at all. First they are throwing away 12 mil. Ok, there might be things we don't know, but seems like a waste of contract that could be used in a trade at some point. I think best FO are always patient even with mistakes like that.
Than, they top that with signing a guy, who was bad for quite some time and plays same position as this summer star signing, this year first round pick and most recent FA vet min. I just don't get this signing, seems like a total waste of roster spot and money.
Hell I would have preferred Pinson if we were going for a deep bench vibes guy who never needed to see the court
But yeah other needs when we really don't have a true 3rd point guard and our only 7 footer is a rookie
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Jmaciscool - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 02:55 PM)omahen Wrote: Not a fan at all. First they are throwing away 12 mil. Ok, there might be things we don't know, but seems like a waste of contract that could be used in a trade at some point. I think best FO are always patient even with mistakes like that.
Than, they top that with signing a guy, who was bad for quite some time and plays same position as this summer star signing, this year first round pick and most recent FA vet min. I just don't get this signing, seems like a total waste of roster spot and money.
I feel like this is almost a certainty at this point. They've been very vocal (way more than in the past as far as I can recall) about getting rid of McGee since the off season started. To me it smells strongly of locker room issues.
Agree with you on Morris, definitely seems like an odd choice.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Mavs2021 - 08-22-2023
Why not give Garuba a try. I have seen him play for Spain. He can be just as much of an annoying a** as the Morris brothers and he´s young with upside. What the hell is the point of Morris? Was VAJ not available?
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - omahen - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 03:04 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Why not give Garuba a try. I have seen him play for Spain. He can be just as much of an annoying a** as the Morris brothers and he´s young with upside. What the hell is the point of Morris? Was VAJ not available?
Not that I wouldn't prefer Garuba, but who says Garuba wants to go to Dallas?
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - KillerLeft - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 03:05 PM)omahen Wrote: Not that I wouldn't prefer Garuba, but who says Garuba wants to go to Dallas?
It's a good question/point. The choices are likely limited to those who can be had for the minimum. If a player has multiple offers for the minimum, he'd need to prefer the Mavs over other offers.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Chicagojk - 08-22-2023
Who let the 2022 Mavs offseason back in the chat? Just a weird move.
Any chance that he was added to the trade last year with the promise that he would be re-signed? Seems unlikely but I can’t think of any reason why you would stretch waive McGee to sign Morris.
RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Mavs Sign DJJ to 1 year deal |Franky Smokes signs w/CHA - Scott41theMavs - 08-22-2023
(08-22-2023, 03:01 PM)Jym Wrote: Hell I would have preferred Pinson if we were going for a deep bench vibes guy who never needed to see the court
But yeah other needs when we really don't have a true 3rd point guard and our only 7 footer is a rookie
You hit the nail on the head with the point guard comment. I don't think it's likely that either Luka or Kyrie plays 82 games this year. It ought to be really fun to see Hardy, Green, Curry, and Exum (tbqh, by far the least dire choice, but you're banking on simply gigantic improvement in his PG skills over the past two years if you think you can play him there now) run the point when one of those two is injured and the other has to sit - if you're a Suns fans.