(07-11-2023, 06:20 PM)Smitty Wrote: If the Mavs can turn THJ (whom they’ve said will not be here) and McGee (whom they said will not be here) into a legit starting Center in Capela for only the cost of 2 SRP’s (that they got in a separate trade) it would be incredible stuff. Anyone that’s a Mavs fan and wants them to be good this season has zero reason to complain.

I’m skeptical that will be the cost, because anything that’s too good to be true…usually is.

But getting Grant Williams and Capela for Reggie, THJ, McGee and a ‘30 FRP swap is GM of the year stuff!

(07-11-2023, 07:40 PM)F Gump Wrote: ...and with all that, I still want the young wing that ATL will want to move, too.

With Siakam incoming, the Hawks would have less minutes to split, not more. And assuming THJ is in the mix for someone, that's another veteran mouth somebody will feed, leaving no space for some kid. I really think it could be easier than we realize, with a good negotiator who is smartly assessing the landscape. Can't be shy.

And with that, I will shut up on this, because I know you guys think I am being too aggressive, and I don't want to belabor my point. But I really think there's an extra opportunity here to extract more value.

(07-11-2023, 08:11 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: I think you’re right and we should look to be aggressive. Get max value. We could afford for this not to work. Both of these teams i think feel pressure. I like how Nico is identifying these situations and putting us in the spot to get a good deal

(07-11-2023, 07:40 PM)F Gump Wrote: ...and with all that, I still want the young wing that ATL will want to move, too.

With Siakam incoming, the Hawks would have less minutes to split, not more. And assuming THJ is in the mix for someone, that's another veteran mouth somebody will feed, leaving no space for some kid. I really think it could be easier than we realize, with a good negotiator who is smartly assessing the landscape. Can't be shy.

And with that, I will shut up on this, because I know you guys think I am being too aggressive, and I don't want to belabor my point. But I really think there's an extra opportunity here to extract more value.

(07-11-2023, 09:31 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: It seems to me that Capela would be a Mav already if it weren't Atlanta being the team who needs to budge here. Apparently, "Throw in Hardy, Green, and/or a first or no deal." That's my skepticism on your overall point.

(07-11-2023, 07:31 PM)F Gump Wrote: From the angle of a DAL fan who wants to get rid of those players, sure. I get what you're saying -- but I don't think it's the best way to play the game.

From a diff angle, where a team wants to move off of what they have and get yours, and has extra projects laying around (clogging up salary and not having a good path for getting minutes), "fair" might look different, if you have the self-confidence to ask.

I work in a business where the "price" can often be negotiable, and I am regularly reminded that asking for what you prefer to get is often all it takes. There is no "fair price scale" in a world where values and needs can change daily. Like the NBA.

(07-12-2023, 08:32 AM)MFFL Wrote: My son has the weirdest idea. He thinks we are trying to deal with Toronto directly.

Siakam for Hardy/Green/THJ/McGee/2027 1st.

(07-12-2023, 08:13 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I think the 27th first is the most likely way the Mavs could get Capella.  While he would definitely make us better now, I am not sure the 27th first is worth it. 

Without the first, I think you need to do a lot of mental gymnastics to have Capella wind up here.  Sure it is possible, but I don't think it is likely.  It would take Atlanta to give up more assets than they want for Siakem, as Toronto wouldn't consider Capella or THJ as prime assets.  It would also take Toronto thinking a 20 million a year center who is 30 is not valuable in the market and a 16-17 million shooting guard could help their team better or be a better asset.  That may be a stretch.  But we will see.

I saw Holmes (with a new haircut) is in Vegas.  Hopefully we get a chance to work him out and get a better feel for his current talents.  It would be tough for any scout to know what we have with him with his lack of playing time last year.

(07-12-2023, 08:32 AM)MFFL Wrote: My son has the weirdest idea. He thinks we are trying to deal with Toronto directly.

Siakam for Hardy/Green/THJ/McGee/2027 1st.

(07-12-2023, 09:17 AM)omahen Wrote: If Siakam value is really so low as discussed on some boards, I would definitely jump on it. True, Siakam is 30. True, he wants max deal and might even want to wait till FA to sign it. But, he is a difference maker for this team. Despite Kyrie and Luka, I think Mavs can afford another max salary. 

Word on the boards is (no idea how reliable that is), that Toronto wants to stay competitive and it is not interested in picks for Siakam. They want win now players and young players. Here is the Hunter interest and they want more young guys. Reading the tea leaves, I would say that Mavs perhaps started to prepare the fan base, that young guys could be traded (link below).

Looking at concrete idea and assuming Toronto likes Hardy, Green enough to make the deal, I would do it. Siakam lifts the floor of this team extremely. Hardy may become good, but will take time. Green is probably the only player that could be point of attack defender on this team, so this is a hole they would need to address. Although (based on Dameris), Mavs would prefer Thybulle to Green. So, might be they are not really valuing him very high. Siakam could play some of the minutes as a center, but would also push GW to SF/SG for at least some time.

Btw, is it just me, or is Twitter out again?

Mavericks Rumors: Josh Green, Jaden Hardy Considered 'Very Attractive Trade Pieces' | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report

(07-12-2023, 10:21 AM)Branduil Wrote: I honestly do not think Siakam is worth Hardy and Green.

(07-12-2023, 10:16 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: https://twitter.com/thehoopcentrill/status/1678903151997378561?s=46

(07-12-2023, 10:16 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: https://twitter.com/thehoopcentrill/status/1678903151997378561?s=46