(07-11-2023, 11:21 AM)MarkAguirreWrathofGod Wrote: Ghost— I would love Eason, just doubt that Houston wants to move him. Are shot would’ve been if they just had to move up for a guy at 10 in this draft. Zach Collins is probably much more gettable, though he is an always injured guy. Who knows though? I have a feeling SA will try to field a playoff contender this season and they may see him being a positive in that light. They can always deal him at the deadline if he has a nice first half of the season if their season goes south.

(07-11-2023, 11:21 AM)F Gump Wrote: Kyrie is 37,037,037.

The contracts for neither Seth nor G Will have been executed yet.

(07-11-2023, 11:39 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Hmmm.  I had assumed about $150k less than that.  People were carrying him at $3.888mm and McMahon said his bonuses were 2 X $1mm per year.

(07-11-2023, 06:55 AM)omahen Wrote: Where the hole in your thinking in my opinion is, is in the wording "we are taking Capela". But really we are not. We are just replacing his salary with (at best) equal value salary of THJ and even throwing in McGee. You even want young player in addition. This doesn't add any value to Atlanta and Toronto trying to execute the Siakam trade, as Toronto has as much of use of THJ as they do of Capela. They have GTj on their roster, who is basically a much younger THJ. I guess Toronto would be willing to take Capela (or THJ), but with assets added to do that. Or Capela is dumped to salary cap space team with asset from Atlanta to reduce salary going to Toronto. What Atlanta would be looking for from Dallas would be the assets (draft assets, young player) going to Toronto for them to take back long term THJ salary they don't need. Alternative could be if Dallas finds a way to only ship McGee to Toronto, greatly reducing the salary they get. But this requires more pieces being sent to another team. 

The question in negotiations is, what those assets from Dallas to Toronto would be. I think 2 SRP is not enough to provide value as a third team.

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Also, I think Atlanta can do the trade without Capela. If I am not mistaken, Hunter, Bey and Mills is enough salary for the trade. The open part are the assets going to Toronto, and just to repeat, here is where Atlanta is looking for value from Dallas.

(07-11-2023, 11:52 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: They can't aggregate Mills in a trade till mid September. But even if they could, Mills value is probably close to McGee's but is expiring.

(07-11-2023, 11:59 AM)omahen Wrote: They can't expand the deal with OKC?

I was only speaking about matching contracts, obviously. Never said Mills has any value in that trade...

(07-11-2023, 12:06 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Oh, I suppose that deal hasn't been finalized so they could.

Things get complicated in terms of money matching when 3/4/5 team expanded trades come about.

(07-11-2023, 12:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I do wonder why we need to add McGee to the deal. It's not necessary...

ATL: Siakam+OPJ
TOR: Hunter+Bey+THJ+FRP from ATL+2 2nds from DAL
DAL: Capela

This works.

Every team stays under the tax, and honestly this all makes a lot more sense.

(07-11-2023, 12:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I do wonder why we need to add McGee to the deal. It's not necessary...

ATL: Siakam+OPJ
TOR: Hunter+Bey+THJ+FRP from ATL+2 2nds from DAL
DAL: Capela

This works.

Every team stays under the tax, and honestly this all makes a lot more sense.

(07-11-2023, 12:23 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: IMO, THJ + 2 SRPs is too steep for Capella.  I'd *much rather Precious.

(07-11-2023, 12:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I do wonder why we need to add McGee to the deal. It's not necessary...

ATL: Siakam+OPJ
TOR: Hunter+Bey+THJ+FRP from ATL+2 2nds from DAL
DAL: Capela

This works.

Every team stays under the tax, and honestly this all makes a lot more sense.

(07-11-2023, 12:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I do wonder why we need to add McGee to the deal. It's not necessary...

ATL: Siakam+OPJ
TOR: Hunter+Bey+THJ+FRP from ATL+2 2nds from DAL
DAL: Capela

This works.

Every team stays under the tax, and honestly this all makes a lot more sense.

(07-11-2023, 11:38 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Eason is buried behind D.Brooks, K.PorterJr, J.SmithJr, Tate, and now A.Thompson. They're aflush with SF/PF, but really G poor.  FVV and J.Green are pretty much it.  I would go to them with THJ and the 27FRP for Eason (and matching salary).

Good points on Z.Collins.  It llooks like he kicked the injury bug last year with 63 games.  It'll be interesting in how SAS work out Z.Collins, Wemby, and Sochan with only 2 starting spots at PF/C.  Z.Collins makes the most sense at C, but are you going to sit Sochan with Wemby starting?  I'd be more prone to start Wemby and Sochan, making Z.Collins expendable.  But, as you stated, they may not get to that conclusion until the TDL.

(07-10-2023, 10:43 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I read through a couple threads on other message boards tonight that I trust a little. That three-way between ATL, TOR and DAL is out there, coming from every which way. Minnesota people, Indiana people…everyone has a very similar version of that rumor.

Pretty interesting.

(07-11-2023, 12:23 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Maybe if you find a way to utilize San Antonio to take GTJ. I doubt Toronto has any interest in THJ, especially with GTJ still there.

(07-11-2023, 12:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I do wonder why we need to add McGee to the deal. It's not necessary...

ATL: Siakam+OPJ
TOR: Hunter+Bey+THJ+FRP from ATL+2 2nds from DAL
DAL: Capela

This works.

Every team stays under the tax, and honestly this all makes a lot more sense.

(07-11-2023, 12:51 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Eason isn't buried behind any of those guys. I can see a scenario of Eason playing next to Smith Jr. He's a swiss army knife on both ends of the floor. He's getting his minutes. They know what they have in Eason, they'll laugh you off the phone with that offer.