(07-09-2023, 08:58 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: DFS’s best position was undersized 4. The Mavs have 2-3 guys who can play there now. I love DFS, but feel THJ is objectively more valuable to the Mavs as currently constructed.

(07-09-2023, 10:11 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think Derrick Jones Jr would make sense for that remaining balance up to the tax line.  But apparently we are still trying to send out Timmy and McGee so that prolly needs to happen (if its going to happen) before anything else.

(07-09-2023, 09:09 PM)Smitty Wrote: I disagree. I think his best spot is at 3. And the rebounding edge of having him there alongside the bench guys Maxi-OMax / Maxi-Powell would help in that area. Ultimately it doesn’t matter what ‘position’ he plays because of all the switching but I’d like to have DFS who can switch and guard 2/3/4 over THJ.

(07-09-2023, 10:05 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: PJ Washington has to be revisited if he’s really about to accept the QO. CHA should majorly incentivized to cooperate on a s&t. The idea that he’s not a posistion of “need” after acquiring GW is ridiculous. If you could snag a player of his talent for THJ and 2 2nds you’ve got to try.

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(07-09-2023, 10:22 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Man, they have a ton of centers. Bamba is in yet another dead end position.

(07-09-2023, 10:09 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Let’s say I agree (I might, big fan of PJW).

What’s your plan to play everyone? You willing to start PJW at center and go small a lot (sign me up, for what it’s worth), or are you trying to talk one of them into coming off the bench? They’re not playing either of them at the 3, if that’s your move.

Remember the two Antwans back in the day? I guess it worked out in the end, asset wise, but it sure did get awkward and waste an entire season. This would be the sequel, I worry.

(07-09-2023, 10:09 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Let’s say I agree (I might, big fan of PJW).

What’s your plan to play everyone? You willing to start PJW at center and go small a lot (sign me up, for what it’s worth), or are you trying to talk one of them into coming off the bench? They’re not playing either of them at the 3, if that’s your move.

Remember the two Antwans back in the day? I guess it worked out in the end, asset wise, but it sure did get awkward and waste an entire season. This would be the sequel, I worry.

(07-09-2023, 10:30 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: I'd say the difference in the 'Twans and today's roster is that neither of the teams best two players today would be ahead of GW/PJW like Dirk was with Jamison and Walker. It was awkward in that Dirk had to play out of position as well as one the 'Twans. That absolutely compromised an already weak defensive team with Nash at the point and then Dirk at C with Jamison/Walker trying to cover a PF. It didn't help that the lack of offensive opportunities could lead to even less interest in playing defense when Walker didn't get the ball. Sometimes Jamison could pout as well, but it did not seem to be as often.

That said I would be willing to see if OMax can cover 3's efficiently if we have PJ & GW working as 4's primarily.

(07-09-2023, 10:09 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Let’s say I agree (I might, big fan of PJW).

What’s your plan to play everyone? You willing to start PJW at center and go small a lot (sign me up, for what it’s worth), or are you trying to talk one of them into coming off the bench? They’re not playing either of them at the 3, if that’s your move.

Remember the two Antwans back in the day? I guess it worked out in the end, asset wise, but it sure did get awkward and waste an entire season. This would be the sequel, I worry.

(07-09-2023, 10:09 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Let’s say I agree (I might, big fan of PJW).

What’s your plan to play everyone? You willing to start PJW at center and go small a lot (sign me up, for what it’s worth), or are you trying to talk one of them into coming off the bench? They’re not playing either of them at the 3, if that’s your move.

Remember the two Antwans back in the day? I guess it worked out in the end, asset wise, but it sure did get awkward and waste an entire season. This would be the sequel, I worry.

(07-09-2023, 10:50 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: PJ is a flex F-C.  He'd be fine at the 5 with GWill at the 4.

(07-09-2023, 10:05 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: PJ Washington has to be revisited if he’s really about to accept the QO. CHA should majorly incentivized to cooperate on a s&t. The idea that he’s not a posistion of “need” after acquiring GW is ridiculous. If you could snag a player of his talent for THJ and 2 2nds you’ve got to try.

(07-09-2023, 10:22 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Man, they have a ton of centers. Bamba is in yet another dead end position.

(07-09-2023, 11:12 PM)MFFL Wrote: Apparently the Hornets want a good player and a 1st. CBAMavs thinks it would be THJ, Green and a 1st. I don't want him that bad.

(07-09-2023, 11:01 PM)F Gump Wrote: One potential issue with PJW would be the contract it would take. Or maybe not, depending on your view of his worth.

Let's work with the THJ + 2nd concept to see what it looks like.

If CHA intends to keep Oubre or his rights (and they seemed to like what he gave them last season), the snt match for PJW gets tricky because of Base Year issues. The smallest number you could pay him in that swap would be a starting salary of $20,795,456. If you're keeping score, that does land the Mavs under the tax line by almost $2M.

If you did max-declining salaries, the deal is either 3 yrs/$59,267,050 or 4 yrs/$76,943,187.

Is he worth that sort of number, in this NBA economy? With a hard cap world, that question really matters, if you don't want to kill your roster-building options ahead. And if you're keeping Green, he's going to have a sizable salary jump next season that has to be part of that equation.

The question to ask is how much of an improvement would he offer, at a position that seems to be fairly well stocked already for both now and the future (Maxi, GWill, Prosper). And he's neither the C nor the wing that the Mavs are looking for, so now how do you navigate those waters?

(07-09-2023, 11:21 PM)F Gump Wrote: Hard pass on that. And I have to think, that if that's an accurate read on CHA's demands, it clearly explains why the Mavs are so dismissive of the idea of a pursuit of PJW.