(07-09-2023, 07:36 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: How high can you go with these incentives, if they don´t count against the cap?

Luka´s new contract

1M per year and 50M in incentives per season, if GP > 0.

(07-09-2023, 07:30 AM)F Gump Wrote: Thanks. And BTW, there may be almost $2M more in room now under the tax line than we thought. When the deal was signed, Kyrie's total salary came to 120M, not 126M (the other 6M is incentives), over the 3 years. 

At this point I show the Mavs may be tracking towards about 160.5M, almost 5M below the tax line. And that assumes they pay McGee his entire salary rather than erase it or minimize it somehow.

As you note, they aren't going to spend MLE money or that space under the tax line just to spend it, and you make a good point that we aren't seeing a target that would justify the added expense. One angle could be an attempt to take in some player being moved in a Harden or Lillard trade, but without that, it feels like a wait for nothing again (as happened last year). I remember the stupid "Trade for a Big Wing coming in August" thread that I objected to because it felt like a myth but the mod wouldn't change because he had decided it was certain to happen, which proved to be pure nonsense of course.

In fact, if they end up without any use for some tax-free payroll, it's possible they could do some contracts decreasing -- while Kyrie's is done, and Curry/Exum are probably not changeable due to exception limits, they still haven't done GW or Powell.

(07-09-2023, 07:08 AM)Winter Wrote: I feel certain they re-signed Kyrie because they want to see how a second stud can play with Luca-Mavs. The front office has whiffed on getting a true second star for the last 4 years, so this is their opportunity to see if it works.

I don't think there's any trickery here. It is exactly what they said they wanted for years.

(07-09-2023, 07:30 AM)F Gump Wrote: Thanks. And BTW, there may be almost $2M more in room now under the tax line than we thought. When the deal was signed, Kyrie's total salary came to 120M, not 126M (the other 6M is incentives), over the 3 years. 

At this point I show the Mavs may be tracking towards about 160.5M, almost 5M below the tax line. And that assumes they pay McGee his entire salary rather than erase it or minimize it somehow.

As you note, they aren't going to spend MLE money or that space under the tax line just to spend it, and you make a good point that we aren't seeing a target that would justify the added expense. One angle could be an attempt to take in some player being moved in a Harden or Lillard trade, but without that, it feels like a wait for nothing again (as happened last year). I remember the stupid "Trade for a Big Wing coming in August" thread that I objected to because it felt like a myth but the mod wouldn't change because he had decided it was certain to happen, which proved to be pure nonsense of course.

In fact, if they end up without any use for some tax-free payroll, it's possible they could do some contracts decreasing -- while Kyrie's is done, and Curry/Exum are probably not changeable due to exception limits, they still haven't done GW or Powell.

(07-09-2023, 09:42 AM)The Jom Wrote: Congrats on being right about a thread title 11 months ago.

(07-09-2023, 05:29 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: One of the interesting parts of this is it might explain why it hasn’t happened yet. If Detroit would take seconds for THJ, we don’t have them yet.  Also explains why no real urgency (seemingly) on Nico’s part to get something done.

(07-09-2023, 10:19 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: He’s right. The board was run completely based on one persons personal feelings, usually not based in reality. It’s a lot better now that there isn’t one guy steering all conversation.

(07-09-2023, 10:21 AM)mvossman Wrote: Not excited if that is the route to get off Timmy.  I'm skeptical that Detroit does it, but Bojan is 34 and he has the look of a guy that is starting to fall of a cliff.  I'm guessing in a year Timmy's contract will look better.

(07-09-2023, 07:08 AM)Winter Wrote: I feel certain they re-signed Kyrie because they want to see how a second stud can play with Luca-Mavs. The front office has whiffed on getting a true second star for the last 4 years, so this is their opportunity to see if it works.

I don't think there's any trickery here. It is exactly what they said they wanted for years.

(07-09-2023, 07:08 AM)Winter Wrote: I feel certain they re-signed Kyrie because they want to see how a second stud can play with Luca-Mavs. The front office has whiffed on getting a true second star for the last 4 years, so this is their opportunity to see if it works.

I don't think there's any trickery here. It is exactly what they said they wanted for years.

(07-09-2023, 10:45 AM)myconsumerclub Wrote: Orlando Robinson a center I think I suggested taking a look at before free agency started is now officially a mistake we made this offseason by not trying to take him away from Miami when they left him open to our getting him as they made him an unrestricted free agent.

He singlehandidly defeated Boston in summer league scoring 36 points and he also hit 75% from 3 going 3 of 4 from beyond the arc.

https://www.nba.com/news/summer-standouts-jazzs-george-heats-robinson-log-massive-double-doubles

He was there to be had guys and guess who also had 6 points and 6 rebounds for Boston in 17.5 minutes? Udoka Azabuike.

So other teams are trying the remaining centers.

(07-09-2023, 08:11 AM)Jym Wrote: Yeah I don't think there's any want or desire to get away from Kyrie
Their positioning is more about making the escape easier if Kyrie has another Kyrie Moment

(07-09-2023, 11:13 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yes!

OR, just if the combo of him and Luka isn’t as good as they hope. OR, if 1 of 30 other problems that could come up do come up.

This is a COMPLIMENT to the Mavs, my dudes. It’s one of of the smartest things I’ve ever seen them do.

(07-09-2023, 11:22 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: After the crap Lillard is giving Por with his trade demands, this is how I hope they approach that situation. Oh, you only want to go to 1 team? Ok, sit out until that 1 team meets our demands. In the meantime, we’ll go ahead and start our youth movement without you!

(07-09-2023, 11:35 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I agree with this.

But, I also feel like the Mavs set this situation up in such a way where they can quickly, easy send Kyrie anywhere, including where he wants to go, and profit handily.

(07-09-2023, 11:45 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Ok, you set yourself up for this one, and this is just playing cause I’m (edit: I should say more with you than not) with you on the player, but, Ayton???

(07-09-2023, 11:11 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I have to admit, I was really confused that we had so little size on our SL roster. You´d think they´d give some undrafted/young center a look.