(07-07-2023, 02:12 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: For sure I want salaries as low as they can go, I do not mind taking a gamble on potential though, especially when all the other salaries are lined up so well. My gripe in the past was we were paying bench players starter money which left us no room to give money to guys that would fill holes. Once THJ is gone and assuming they don’t take back like bad salary, our cap sheet looks pretty darn good going forward.

(07-07-2023, 02:15 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I miss gifs. THJ is not bad salary.

(07-07-2023, 02:16 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Me and the rest of the league disagree.

(07-07-2023, 02:11 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Btw, could it BE more clear that teams aren’t even considering Wood at anything remotely approaching MLE money?

The NBA really doesn’t like him much.

(07-07-2023, 01:32 PM)mvossman Wrote: I think Lively gets more minutes than that, if not right away then by mid season.  I think Holmes gets more minutes than that if he bounces back.  I think Maxi has been our best defensive center for years and he allows us to go 5 out, which is particularly useful in the playoffs.  There are plenty of center minutes on this roster right now.

(07-07-2023, 02:24 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Soooo...you're saying Marc Stein is no longer a good Mavs source with the new front office.

That's certainly possible.

My take on the center position is based almost exclusively on Steins comments.  The offseason will not have gone as planned if THJ and McGee are still on the team.  The Mavs are looking to upgrade center and it's something they must do.)

(07-07-2023, 02:30 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I feel like Stein is combining two things:

1) things relayed to him from sources at the BEGINNING of the summer

2) his own opinion upon reading the situation

And, for what it’s worth, I think you and Heath are right. I am sure they are still poking around hoping to find help in a lot of places, center being one of them. I just don’t know how you can be so sure that means they’ll DEFINITELY find one.

(07-07-2023, 02:24 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Soooo...you're saying Marc Stein is no longer a good Mavs source with the new front office.

That's certainly possible.

My take on the center position is based almost exclusively on Steins comments.  The offseason will not have gone as planned if THJ and McGee are still on the team.  The Mavs are looking to upgrade center and it's something they must do.)

(07-07-2023, 02:34 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: This was 2 days ago and it seems like a pretty definitive statement to me.  

Even if the Mavs pull off both Grant Williams and Thybulle, YES they will still try to upgrade center.  They have to.

No one said anything about being sure they can get it done.  I'm saying the Center rotation you guys are happy with, the Mavs front office and coaching staff is not happy with. 

I'm just going to let it go for the sake of harmony and being repetitive.

(07-07-2023, 02:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Nah, you do, but just this morning we heard a rumor about two teams having/having had interest. 

They haven’t been trying to dump him, like Bertans. That’s crazy town. Your bias limits your ability to reason. I am sooooooooo happy Bullock is gone, and THJ is here. I do agree that they were and probably still are shopping THJ - that makes sense. But, it has to be a deal that makes the team better.

(07-07-2023, 02:37 PM)F Gump Wrote: "The offseason will not have gone as planned if THJ and McGee are still on the team.  The Mavs are looking to upgrade center and it's something they must do "

I trust Stein relayed the Mavs thinking accurately. And I trust Stein's own thinking was truthfully conveyed in saying it's a real need.

But -- until something happens, it's just wanna-do's. Fixing the rebounding and C positions was a wanna-do last summer too, in fact an openly admitted gotta-do, and we all see how that worked out. It's hard to trust in a positive outcome on that front until we see it.

(07-07-2023, 02:46 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: At last TDL, Cle had interest too, they wanted a pick to swap THJ and Levert. That is league interest. You don’t have to agree, but odds are in my favor on this one.

(07-07-2023, 02:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: But that’s value. That proves my point. The Mavs think he’s better than LeVert. I do, too.

(07-07-2023, 01:47 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I’d like to see at some point a big lineup of Lively/Maxi/OMax during a game.

(07-07-2023, 02:51 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: A pick and Levert is not positive value.

(07-07-2023, 02:56 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: See...I think you're thinking like Jason Kidd.

(07-07-2023, 03:05 PM)F Gump Wrote: NO needs to get off of about 3.5M in salary and has supposedly been shopping Valunciunas at 15.4M. It feels like Holmes would be the perfect swap, except at 12.0M it still leaves NO 100K or so over the tax line.

McGee for JV doesn't match, but McGee + snt of _____ at the minimum (Ntilikina? Morris?) looks like it works. But not sure that works nearly as well for either team on the court.

So how could the Mavs bridge the rest of that savings they would need to offer in a RH-JV swap? I've played with it and don't see a good solution.

The best I have so far is NO ending up around 161.7M (3.5 under the tax line) and Mavs landing at about 169.5M (about 3M under the Apron) after this swap:
JV-Lewis
Holmes-SNT player (min salary)

Suggestions?

(07-07-2023, 03:12 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Do you think Valunciunis checks the right boxes? Rebounding, for sure. Pick and roll, defense, rim-protection? I don’t like it, personally.

(07-07-2023, 03:31 PM)Spin4177 Wrote: do you guys think we will make a trade for a starting player or not?