(07-05-2023, 09:01 PM)Tyler Wrote: The rumored Thybulle contract is interesting because it implies a starting salary of about $10.4mm. That just happens to be Bullock's exact number. The Bullock/Williams trade would NOT create a TPE alone. But what if Nico has a way to wedge the Williams acquisition into the larger Bertans deal? Then Bullock would technically be a salary dump, and Dallas would have a $10.4mm TPE to take Thybulle without sending money back.

So in that conspiracy theory situation, all of the specific Thybulle talk today could be Dallas saying that they DO plan on offering Thybulle a RFA contract. If Portland wants to match, they could just sign Thybulle on their own and it never would have gotten this far. But if they DON'T plan to match, why not S&T him to us before noon tomorrow and accept a 2nd rounder that we just acquired?

(07-05-2023, 09:31 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: It looks like Cato kind of nailed this (just had the wrong outgoing salary).  Report of the offer to Thybulle at $33mm means he and Curry are splitting the MLE.  GWill is essentially the same as a second MLE created by the S&T.

Spotrac has Dallas at $154.913 with G-Will and without the Holmes TK, the rookies and Thybulle.  So add,

$7.884 Thybulle
$2.733 O-Max
$4.775 Lively
$1.800 TK for Holmes

$172.105 (rounded)

It doesn’t necessarily mean we are done (though we could be).  We just have to take back less than we send out.  If we get Thybulle, a McGee S/W is in play as we will have 15 players.  At 14, it makes no sense because you have to replace him with a minimum slot.  At 15, we can drop back to 14 with McGee out and not be forced to replace him.

So every proposal we look at from here (assuming we get Thybulle) can take back extra salary up to the benefit of McGee’s S/W OR has to be for less money.  For instance, you can’t trade match THJ and picks for Allen unless you include McGee or S/W him.  Charlotte can complete a THJ for PJ deal, but it has to be as an under the cap deal at up to PJ’s hold of $17.4mm for Charlotte to avoid BYC.  BTW, $17.4mm to start fulfills the reported $18mm/year average over 4 years for PJ.  So, lots of things we can do.  We just have fewer ways to do them if we believe the reported goals of moving on from McGee and THJ.

(07-05-2023, 09:01 PM)Tyler Wrote: The rumored Thybulle contract is interesting because it implies a starting salary of about $10.4mm. That just happens to be Bullock's exact number. The Bullock/Williams trade would NOT create a TPE alone. But what if Nico has a way to wedge the Williams acquisition into the larger Bertans deal? Then Bullock would technically be a salary dump, and Dallas would have a $10.4mm TPE to take Thybulle without sending money back.

So in that conspiracy theory situation, all of the specific Thybulle talk today could be Dallas saying that they DO plan on offering Thybulle a RFA contract. If Portland wants to match, they could just sign Thybulle on their own and it never would have gotten this far. But if they DON'T plan to match, why not S&T him to us before noon tomorrow and accept a 2nd rounder that we just acquired?

(07-05-2023, 09:33 PM)Smitty Wrote: Thybulle has to start at 10.5M for it to be 3/33 based on 5% raises.
Seth was 4M+ year 1 and TMac already reported that Mavs are using the BAE?

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1674962298429997056?s=46&t=4w35gotNXtBJnqxbaL7e9w

(07-05-2023, 09:48 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: My bad.  I read it as four years for the $33mm (it is almost 4 in the morning where I am).  I also saw a self congratulatory tweet from Cato on this with Thybulle starting at $7.9 (Seth doesn’t have to be the BAE as it can be changed to part of the MLE as it hasn’t been turned in yet).  

There isn’t room for $10.4 salary for Thybulle and remain under the first apron.  It does fit if we S/W McGee though.  So, it seems either Cato is right on a split MLE or McGee is S/W’d before the Thybulle offer goes in.

(07-05-2023, 09:52 PM)Smitty Wrote: Good morning to you. Could it be as simple as Holmes waived his TK and now Mavs have the exact number under the 1st apron to offer the 3/~33 to Thybulle?

(07-05-2023, 06:40 PM)MFFL Wrote: Adam Himmelsbach
@AdamHimmelsbach
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18m
Sources confirm that Celtics forward Grant Williams is headed to Dallas in a sign-and-trade.

Interesting that Grant gets the exact number he was seeking in an extension last fall.

(07-05-2023, 09:58 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Only with a McGee S/W.  Otherwise, $10.4mm for Thybulle puts us over the apron as the numbers in my post indicated.

Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have checked the board in the middle of the night.

(07-05-2023, 09:58 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Only with a McGee S/W.  Otherwise, $10.4mm for Thybulle puts us over the apron as the numbers in my post indicated.

Yeah, I probably shouldn’t have checked the board in the middle of the night.

(07-05-2023, 08:26 PM)mvossman Wrote: I thought it was 24 hours?

(07-05-2023, 08:44 PM)cow Wrote: Agent probably trying to get him to Dallas.  Portland probably matches that offer but this might help a trade materialize before the RFA period starts.

(07-05-2023, 10:04 PM)F Gump Wrote: He can sign the offer sheet any time after free agency opens on July 1, and perhaps already has. But the moratorium ends at noon ET on July 6, and if it is submitted to POR any time before that point, they have until midnight ET on July 7 to exercise their ROFR.

(07-05-2023, 08:52 PM)The Jom Wrote: Wonder if he might fit into the Bullock TPE (if there is one).

(07-05-2023, 10:01 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: A number Boston refused to match because of the Brown Tatum  extensions.

(07-05-2023, 10:20 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Cato on twitter saying he still expects a Hardaway trade.

(07-05-2023, 10:12 PM)F Gump Wrote: Once he signs the offer sheet, it is "match" or "don't match." There is no trade opportunity. And the snt route demands POR would have to take matching salary and all that anyhow, which would be an issue for POR to deal with unless they want McGee.