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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - cow - 02-10-2023 Nets might like some traditional size but they can throw defenders at you left and right. I'd give them a punchers chance in the playoffs and it would be a pretty cool story if they were more successful now that KD, Kyrie and Harden are gone. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - SleepingHero - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 11:39 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I thought the Portland moves at the deadline was strange. But with Paul Allen no longer alive, tax is a big issue with them. Hollinger thought the moves yesterday will allow them to resign Grant and Thybulle and be below the tax. And they may have the full MLE to spend. If we renounced everyone besides Kyrie I think the Mavs could have the full MLE to spend. But yeah, only way to get to Grant kind of money is if we renounced Kyrie. Even then it'd only be 20 ish mil though. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Jason Terry - 02-10-2023 Draymond Green and jerami grant are the 3rd guys i would look at in SnT with picks and THJ-Bertans outbound Who are the next Vanderbilt types? Rookie contract 4/5s to target? Walker Kessler and Vanderbilt are prototypes for what we need The hard part is over assuming this works and Kyrie is re-signed RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - KillerLeft - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 05:54 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Draymond Green and jerami grant are the 3rd guys i would look at in SnT with picks and THJ-Bertans outbound Jerami Grant would be the ideal guy. 2-way, great size, great skills, well-rounded, a pretty perfect all-around fit...if he's realized he's not a featured guy by then. He was in a dream of a situation and left because he wanted a bigger role. Not sure playing 3rd fiddle is on his playlist, but if he's game I'd be very tempted to trade too much to get him. Provided the Mavs even had enough to get the deal done. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - LukaMVP - 02-10-2023 draymond is well past his prime imho, and he would be even less influential if moved to anther team. dude is a system player in golden state, not saying he ain't making contributions elsewhere one way or another, but the warriors are clearly the team he fits best. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - cow - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 06:51 PM)LukaMVP Wrote: draymond is well past his prime imho, and he would be even less influential if moved to anther team. dude is a system player in golden state, not saying he ain't making contributions elsewhere one way or another, but the warriors are clearly the team he fits best. Prime Dray would have been amazing with Luka, but I largely agree. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - SleepingHero - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 05:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Jerami Grant would be the ideal guy. 2-way, great size, great skills, well-rounded, a pretty perfect all-around fit...if he's realized he's not a featured guy by then. He was in a dream of a situation and left because he wanted a bigger role. Not sure playing 3rd fiddle is on his playlist, but if he's game I'd be very tempted to trade too much to get him. Provided the Mavs even had enough to get the deal done. I don't know. Maybe Grant can be convinced. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - MFFL - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 11:10 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1624072473703550981?s=46&t=5WHeaDj3w1e-toDwAI7a1w This comment is going to be awkward if the trade is nullified and Gary Payton II has to return RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - SleepingHero - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 07:19 PM)MFFL Wrote: This comment is going to be awkward if the trade is nullified and Gary Payton II has to return GPII made some eyebrow raising comments too after the trade. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Branduil - 02-10-2023 Grant would be great here. I thought that last year too, and it's even more true with DFS gone. Assuming Wood is gone, that would give you a core 4 of Luka/Kyrie/Green/Grant. Would have to hope the Mavs get better at picking up cheap centers at some point. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Ghost of Podkolzin - 02-10-2023 Kuzma vs Grant... > rebounder = Kuzma > 3pt shooter = Grant > Size = Kuzma > Defense = Kuzma Methinks we need to extend Wood, extend Kyrie, and S&T for Kuzma. (02-10-2023, 07:41 PM)Branduil Wrote: Grant would be great here. I thought that last year too, and it's even more true with DFS gone. Assuming Wood is gone, that would give you a core 4 of Luka/Kyrie/Green/Grant. Would have to hope the Mavs get better at picking up cheap centers at some point. Grant is surprisingly a bad rebounder. If the money is close, I'd much rather Kuzma. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Branduil - 02-10-2023 Kuzma sucks. Good guy if you want to tank I guess RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - LukaMVP - 02-10-2023 kuzma would be our upgraded version of marion imho, with good D and rebounding, and better size and offensive skills than marion's (the 11' marion, not the prime one of course). RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Ghost of Podkolzin - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 07:56 PM)Branduil Wrote: Kuzma sucks. Good guy if you want to tank I guess That's a thoughtful, intellectual response. Thanks. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Branduil - 02-10-2023 I've just never liked Kuzma. I don't think he's a winning basketball player, and his teams have never given me a reason to think otherwise. I also have no idea where "good defensive player" is coming from, although I admit I haven't watched him recently, so maybe he developed defensive skills after several NBA seasons of having none. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - SleepingHero - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 08:13 PM)LukaMVP Wrote: kuzma would be our upgraded version of marion imho, with good D and rebounding, and better size and offensive skills than marion's (the 11' marion, not the prime one of course). Kuzma's attitude scares me a bit. Not sure his ego would let him go back to being a 4th option on a good team. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - LukaMVP - 02-10-2023 kuzma would be a good addition to our squad without a doubt, but dude, like many other names listed, are simply beyond our power to afford. one 1st round pick + fillers may probably be the best package we can offer to washington, but they would apparently want more. we were extremely lucky to get Kyrie at the price of 2 role players and just one 1st round pick (and insignificant 2nd rounders). some veteran wings who want rings more than anything are more realistic targets to me, just like the marion in 09 when we got him via S&T. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Branduil - 02-10-2023 Well another advantage for Grant there is he would be a free agent, so the cost would mainly be what's required to make a S&T work. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - Scott41theMavs - 02-10-2023 (02-10-2023, 08:37 PM)LukaMVP Wrote: kuzma would be a good addition to our squad without a doubt, but dude, like many other names listed, are simply beyond our power to afford. one 1st round pick + fillers may probably be the best package we can offer to washington, but they would apparently want more. we were extremely lucky to get Kyrie at the price of 2 role players and just one 1st round pick (and insignificant 2nd rounders). some veteran wings who want rings more than anything are more realistic targets to me, just like the marion in 09 when we got him via S&T. We'll have two firsts available to trade after the draft, plus swaps. Wouldn't spend all that on Kuzma, tho. RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: TDL past, time to look forward! - KillerLeft - 02-10-2023 I’ve never been a Kuzma guy, either, but he’s grown on me lately. It’s irrelevant, because he’s signing in Washington. They’re calling that trio of “pretty good” players a “big 3” and they traded Hachimura to LA specifically to re-sign Kuzma. |