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Jason Terry - Jason Terry - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:32 PM)speedkilz88 Wrote: Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
Compensation update: Boston and Dallas will each receive two second-round picks in the deal.
Love this deal so much! We aren’t done

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - KillerLeft - 07-05-2023

As much as I love PJ Washington, I don’t know that this leaves room for him. I mean, I would be fine starting him at the 5, but I’m probably in the minority. Essentially, I think Williams/Washington were an either/or proposition.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:29 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Unless more salary is shed, it literally can’t be the full MLE. They are now hard capped at the first apron.

You're right, I missed that, that's good news.
Holy shit we got two seconds?

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - speedkilz88 - 07-05-2023

Woj has a million less.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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25m
Restricted free agent F Grant Williams is finalizing a four-year, $53 million sign-and-trade agreement to land with the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell ESPN.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - Knutsen - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:29 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Is Nico a God?  Woj saying Dallas receiveing two seconds.  What?

Hard to believe - why should we get those, just for the pick swap? Let‘s hope he‘s right!

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 07-05-2023

Wonder if Nico is still looking for a center by pairing those two seconds with Hardaway/McGee now. Feels a little more possible now.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - Mavs2021 - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:32 PM)speedkilz88 Wrote: Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
Compensation update: Boston and Dallas will each receive two second-round picks in the deal.

Nice. Spurs must feel really confident, we´ll be trash in 2030. LOL. 

I bet they will use those 2nds to get off McGee. Question is can they get anything back?

McGee + two 2nds for Gafford?
McGee + two 2nds for Reed?

[Image: giphy.gif]

Otherwise sign Bamba or BolBol.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:34 PM)Knutsen Wrote: Hard to believe - why should we get those, just for the pick swap? Let‘s hope he‘s right!

People are really understating how big a deal this pick swap is.  That could easily be the most valuable piece of this whole trade.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - dirkfansince1998 - 07-05-2023

Bizarro Mavs summer continues. Mavs take on bad salary and add a draft pick. Mavs receive 2nd round picks in a trade. Doing all the things they haven´t done in the last 15-20 years.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - speedkilz88 - 07-05-2023

Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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11m
The Mavs will be hard-capped at the first apron by doing a sign-and-trade to take in Grant Williams and, league sources say, maintain strong interest in signing restricted free agent Matisse Thybulle to an offer sheet as
@ChrisBHaynes
reported earlier.

TBD: Will Portland match?
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Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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Doing a sign-and-trade to acquire Grant Williams means Dallas has still preserved its midlevel exception for further free agent use ... with Portland RFA Matisse Thybulle still at the top of the Mavericks' wish list, league sources say.

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RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - Jason Terry - 07-05-2023

According to Bobby Marks, 4/39 is what we can offer Thybulle

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - Jym - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:33 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: As much as I love PJ Washington, I don’t know that this leaves room for him. I mean, I would be fine starting him at the 5, but I’m probably in the minority. Essentially, I think Williams/Washington were an either/or proposition.

Yeah that only makes sense if Williams can slide down to SF and play more
Which looking back maybe that's for the best. His best +/- year was his rookie year playing 40% SF.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - Mavs2021 - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:36 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: People are really understating how big a deal this pick swap is.  That could easily be the most valuable piece of this whole trade.

They basically bet on Wembanyama being the best player in the league in seven years and Kyrie destroying the Mavs, with Luka leaving. At that point it could be a 1 for 30 swap. Or Wembanyama becomes Yao Ming and Luka wins five chips here.

I think the two 2nds were real important for the Mavs to get off McGee in a deal separate from a potential THJ move.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - audiosway - 07-05-2023

If I EVER said anything negative about Nico I fully eat crow on that. Homeboy is killing it right now. He is negotiating like a BOSS!

I can't remember ever this much reason to have faith in the Mavs FO

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - MFFL - 07-05-2023

Adam Himmelsbach
@AdamHimmelsbach
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18m
Sources confirm that Celtics forward Grant Williams is headed to Dallas in a sign-and-trade.

Interesting that Grant gets the exact number he was seeking in an extension last fall.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - dirkfansince1998 - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:36 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Nice. Spurs must feel really confident, we´ll be trash in 2030. LOL. 

I bet they will use those 2nds to get off McGee. Question is can they get anything back?

McGee + two 2nds for Gafford?
McGee + two 2nds for Reed?

[Image: giphy.gif]

Otherwise sign Bamba or BolBol.


Luka will sign a supermax extension. Maybe he leaves afterwards but if he forces a trade the Mavs would have all the picks in the world afterwards.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - KillerLeft - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:31 PM)Kidnova Wrote: I'm all for deals that bring in youth and talent.  I'll admit that on paper Williams doesn't excite me any more that Thybulle would, but I haven't watched the man play very much so hopefully this pays off.

He’s like a 24 year old Kleber. He’ll run, defend and hit 3’s reliably. Might not fit as well as Kleber did in his very best moments, but will probably be more consistently healthy and positive. Can play starter minutes, and unlike Kleber, his best position will actually be the 4.

He was easily my pick as the best fit for Dallas, until the PJ stuff started. PJ is probably a more impactful player right now, but he’s also 4-5 years older. Williams fits so nicely into the timeline of Luka, Lively, Geen, Hardy, Omax, etc. This team is clearly trying to get younger. I welcome the strategy.

This is easily a W of a deal.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - Knutsen - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:36 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: People are really understating how big a deal this pick swap is.  That could easily be the most valuable piece of this whole trade.

Or it could hold no value at all because we finish above the Spurs that season. As long as we stay relevant - that means we keep Luka long term - we shouldn’t finish any season in the lottery and then the pick swap wouldn’t really matter, would it?

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - Tyler - 07-05-2023

(07-05-2023, 06:35 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: Wonder if Nico is still looking for a center by pairing those two seconds with Hardaway/McGee now.  Feels a little more possible now.

Remember that THJ/Holmes/McGee for Ayton rumor? It happens to save Dallas $3mm, or what they appear to need to offer a max TPMLE contract to Thybulle while staying below the apron. Maybe two seconds will sweeten the deal considering that Phoenix has no picks for a very long time.

RE: Trade & FA 2023-24: Hayes: Thybulle intends to sign offer sheet with Mavs. - BigDirk41 - 07-05-2023

I don't know how Luka can be upset or disappointed anymore. Maybe some of these moves don't work out, but the execution by the front office has been as good as we could have ever hoped for. He should be excited. He has a 2nd superstar and lots of exciting young talent now and we aren't done.