(07-02-2023, 09:07 PM)cow Wrote: Don't think so.  I read that the Heat signed their draft pick so he wasn't eligible to be included in Dame trade.

(07-02-2023, 08:15 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Have to say…Thybulle talk is scaring me to death.

He’s literally another Ntilikina. A little bigger, but imo he’s NOT a Brown type who can guard bigger guys. Great point of attack defender, but as we’ve discussed at length there are currently like 6-7 players on the roster who will soak up guard minutes. On offense, he’s not much of a shooter and cannot handle the ball to play-make or even dribble. Not the kind of guy I want clogging the books, personally. Full MLE? No, thank you.

Grant Williams would be infinitely better.

(07-02-2023, 09:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Has Frank ever come close to an All-defense team? I feel like that's a massive undersell on Thybulle's abilities.

He's not a scorer by any means, but he's undoubtably a top 10 perimeter defender in the league and has an argument to be in the top 5. 

For what it's worth (and I know it's been repeated here already) but in 22 games with Portland, Thybulle shot 39% from 3 on 4 attempts a game. 

Parsing through Franks game logs, he's never had such an efficient stretch with that many attempts ever.


Thybulle isn't even in the same realm as Franky.

(07-02-2023, 09:15 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Has Frank ever come close to an All-defense team? I feel like that's a massive undersell on Thybulle's abilities.

He's not a scorer by any means, but he's undoubtably a top 10 perimeter defender in the league and has an argument to be in the top 5. 

For what it's worth (and I know it's been repeated here already) but in 22 games with Portland, Thybulle shot 39% from 3 on 4 attempts a game. 

Parsing through Franks game logs, he's never had such an efficient stretch with that many attempts ever.


Thybulle isn't even in the same realm as Franky.

(07-02-2023, 10:12 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Hey, maybe you’re right. BUT, with Kyrie, Curry and Hardy needing to play guard, exclusively, THJ, Bullock and Exum being better at guard and Green probably slotted to play a high percentage of his time there in order to guard point of attack a fair amount himself, I just don’t see this as a need. At least, not compared to the need for those who can guard forwards. Right now, that list is pretty much just OMAX and (*gulp*) Luka. 

Again, thybulle isn’t really known for guarding UP a position. His bag is more about smothering smaller players with length because he can keep up with them. I’m not into it, personally.

(07-02-2023, 09:05 PM)mvossman Wrote: Can we send Lively in a trade?  If its Lively and one of our salary filler guards then I am all in.  I don't think it makes sense to send both Lively and the 27.  That is too much.  There are not a lot of options out there where I would send the unprotected 27.  Not for Grant's bloated contract and not for a center.  Siakam would make sense, but I don't think we have the assets to get that done.  

We are not going to be a contender this coming season.  Lets get a young defensive player with the MLE and see where we are at after the season.  Then we will have a much younger roster and 3 firsts to trade.  That is when we make the big move.

(07-02-2023, 10:28 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Can someone post stats on how Thybulle and Grant Williams performed against Tatum/Butler?
Not that the Mavs would be facing them frequently but I'd like to feel better with Thybulle at SF (I'm not convinced with Thybulle for the full MLE).

(07-02-2023, 10:47 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Grant was amazing against Tatum during the regular season!

Edit: my sauces say.

(07-02-2023, 04:51 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: That's the trick question.

"Hey, you guys want to give us a starting center for THJ?"  CLICK

Probably need to add some asset to THJ to get things moving.  What asset do we have if we dont want to trade Hardy or Green?

(07-02-2023, 10:23 PM)rocky164 Wrote: Can we SnT Wood pus 2027 FRP for Allen? Wood for Allen as a basic framework makes a lot of sense for both teams.

(07-02-2023, 08:15 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Have to say…Thybulle talk is scaring me to death.

He’s literally another Ntilikina. A little bigger, but imo he’s NOT a Brown type who can guard bigger guys. Great point of attack defender, but as we’ve discussed at length there are currently like 6-7 players on the roster who will soak up guard minutes. On offense, he’s not much of a shooter and cannot handle the ball to play-make or even dribble. Not the kind of guy I want clogging the books, personally. Full MLE? No, thank you.

Grant Williams would be infinitely better.

(07-03-2023, 03:35 AM)Jym Wrote: I'm still fuzzy on the details of sign&trades

Can you do a sign&trade for a sign&trade? Like Wood outgoing with Thybulle coming in?

(07-03-2023, 03:45 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Yes, if you follow all of the other rules.  There is nothing about a S&T per se that keeps the incoming player from also being a S&T.

(07-03-2023, 07:19 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: Guys I’m looking at in trade:

Capela- might be too rich for us. I don’t see how we can give them more than max trade spread and the 2030 2nd

Isaac- THJ is a match. I like this as a buy low on a younger guy

DFS- Bullock for DFS makes more sense now to the nets now that Harris has been traded. They can’t tank and need expiring 3pt shooting. Plus they get off long term money

Boucher- Bullock even swap makes sense if we miss out on G Will and sign Thybulle

Zubac, Morris, RoCo- this is my favorite “big” trade team. Makes sense in a Harden trade. A good fallback option if we don’t get Williams

What teams would be interested in Hardaway? It’s obvious he’s being shopped. I would be fine with a bad contract and a 2nd. What are the bad contracts out there?

(07-03-2023, 05:56 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Not that anyone asked, but I like G-Will better than Thybulle.  I can see the day when Lively grows into being an average NBA center and we have: