(07-02-2023, 03:24 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think Eric Gordon is worse than THJ by far. He cannot move his feet on the other end. He's a great catch and shoot guy but who's setting him up? Brad Beal?


Still think the Suns roster is a bit awkward, but in terms of talent sure Gordon was a good signing.

(07-02-2023, 03:54 PM)Okstate819 Wrote: Stein’s substack.

The Mavericks, league sources, have interest in two restricted free agents as they seek to address their significant need for a good defender on the wing: Portland's Matisse Thybulle and Boston's Grant Williams.

The Rockets, I’m told, had interest in signing Powell before pivoting to the former Suns center Jock Landale.

(07-02-2023, 04:26 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Nuggets
Lakers
Suns
Warriors
Grizzlies
Kings
Clippers (always health permitting + maybe Harden)

are all clearly much better than the Mavs right now.

Mavs in a group with OKC, Utah, MIN fighting for play in.

(07-02-2023, 03:54 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: The bright side of our free agency experience thus far is we haven't signed anyone to a bad contract.

Which contracts do you think have been the worst in the NBA during this free agency season?

The ones I believe will be most regrettable:

Max Strus-  4 year-  $63 million    (twice what I would have predicted)

Dillon Brooks   4 year-  $80 million  (decent player but seems mentally ill.  I thought he would get the MLE)

Dennis Schroeder   2 year-  $26 million (Toronto was desperate so overspent for a name.  This is what the Mavs usually do)

Jeff Green-   1 year-  $6 million (anything more than the minimum is charity)

Jerami Grant-   5 year-  $160 million   (solid starter making more than a lot of All-Stars)

Which do you think were the worst free agency contracts thus far?

(07-02-2023, 04:16 PM)omahen Wrote: I have been reading this kind of line for several offseasons now  In the end, the goal is to actually get the right pieces in your team building approach. There are only so many right pieces out there. So you can go year after year skipping what could be the right pieces because they look too expensive, signing what are not the right pieces at market deals. Or you actually pull the trigger at some point. 

The question for me is not so much the price/salary, but if a player is the right piece.

(07-02-2023, 04:32 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: OKC won't be in that group long, maybe take a jump this year.  They get Chet Holmgren back to add to their young talented core. They're on the comeup.

(07-02-2023, 04:35 PM)omahen Wrote: Oh no, Mavs lost a player

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1675616000035700736

(07-02-2023, 04:35 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: What is Stein track record this summer?
Feels he talked the most about interest, trade talks etc but I don't remember him breaking any deal that happened.

Mavs having interest in RFA seems like something you can just guess and not an insider info.
I know he is connected to Mavs for years but I am just skeptical.

(07-02-2023, 04:25 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: If Landale got $8mm and Houston ‘pivoted’ to him after trying to get Powell, does that mean Powell turned down $8mm?

Williams and Thybulle make some sense.  Neither is old by any means, so they could be around for a while. Are they available for the MLE?  Do they require more?  As I’ve illustrated, easy to get to $17mm area with just McGee as the outgoing.  Taking McGee’s salary would seem problematic for Boston.  FG mentioned sending cash with McGee to pay some of the difference between his salary and a minimum slot.  That seems a more likely strategy for Thybulle.

(07-02-2023, 04:35 PM)omahen Wrote: Oh no, Mavs lost a player

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1675616000035700736

(07-02-2023, 04:34 PM)surfpuckmd Wrote: I think the players that would have been the right piece were out of our budget.  I think Bruce Brown would have been great but he got a huge contract with Indiana.  Dillon Brooks would have been a decent pickup for the MLE but he went for $20 million per year. 

I am envious of the Lakers and the Suns who picked up quality rotation pieces on cheap (often minimum) contracts.  I like Josh Okogie, Yuta Watanabe and Taurean Prince.  I wish the Mavs would have offered one of them part of the MLE and I think we'd be in a better position today.  

Those would all be backups though.  As of today, the price of an adequate starter in free agency is more than the MLE.